From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1161276AbXD1Web (ORCPT ); Sat, 28 Apr 2007 18:34:31 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1161333AbXD1Web (ORCPT ); Sat, 28 Apr 2007 18:34:31 -0400 Received: from smtp1.linux-foundation.org ([65.172.181.25]:35992 "EHLO smtp1.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1161276AbXD1Wea (ORCPT ); Sat, 28 Apr 2007 18:34:30 -0400 Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 15:33:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Linus Torvalds To: Adrian Bunk cc: Diego Calleja , Chuck Ebbert , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.21 In-Reply-To: <20070428195320.GZ3468@stusta.de> Message-ID: References: <20070426040806.GJ3468@stusta.de> <20070426125802.GL3468@stusta.de> <4630DB24.4030005@redhat.com> <20070426201325.8a1ebda3.diegocg@gmail.com> <20070426224148.69b91b2e.diegocg@gmail.com> <20070428195320.GZ3468@stusta.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, 28 Apr 2007, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > We are already quite good at ignoring bug reports that come through > linux-kernel, and it's an _advantage_ of the kernel Bugzilla to see more > than 1600 open bugs because this tells how bad we are at handling bugs. No, it just shows that bugzilla doesn't matter for most of the kernel. Don't say that "bugzilla tells how bad we are at handling bugs". It tells how bad *bugzilla* is for handling bugs, nothing more. Trying to play politics by pointing to bugzilla is pointless. Bugzilla is used for a few subsystems (ACPI seems to use it actively, for example), but I doubt most developers use it. Would be be good to have a better bug-tracking setup? Yes. But I think it takes man-power, and it would take something *fundamentally* better than bugzilla. Maybe the new "http://kernelnewbies.org/known_regressions" thing will evolve to something worth tracking. Right now, bugzilla isn't it (although it can be a useful tracking place for individual bugs, *once* you've found and gotten the right developer involved - but that's a huge step that bugzilla generally does *not* do for us). Linus