From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
Cc: Davi Arnaut <davi@haxent.com.br>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] rfc: threaded epoll_wait thundering herd
Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 21:44:13 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.0.98.0705042131040.3819@woody.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <463C04C6.7000205@cosmosbay.com>
On Sat, 5 May 2007, Eric Dumazet wrote:
>
> But... what happens if the thread that was chosen exits from the loop in
> ep_poll() with res = -EINTR (because of signal_pending(current))
Not a problem.
What happens is that an exclusive wake-up stops on the first entry in the
wait-queue that it actually *wakes*up*, but if some task has just marked
itself as being TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE, but is still on the run-queue, it
will just be marked TASK_RUNNING and that in itself isn't enough to cause
the "exclusive" test to trigger.
The code in sched.c is subtle, but worth understanding if you care about
these things. You should look at:
- try_to_wake_up() - this is the default wakeup function (and the one
that should work correctly - I'm not going to guarantee that any of the
other specialty-wakeup-functions do so)
The return value is the important thing. Returning non-zero is
"success", and implies that we actually activated it.
See the "goto out_running" case for the case where the process was
still actually on the run-queues, and we just ended up setting
"p->state = TASK_RUNNING" - we still return 0, and the "exclusive"
logic will not trigger.
- __wake_up_common: this is the thing that _calls_ the above, and which
cares about the return value above. It does
if (curr->func(curr, mode, sync, key) &&
(flags & WQ_FLAG_EXCLUSIVE) && !--nr_exclusive)
ie it only decrements (and triggers) the nr_exclusive thing when the
wakeup-function returned non-zero (and when the waitqueue entry was
marked exclusive, of course).
So what does all this subtlety *mean*?
Walk through it. It means that it is safe to do the
if (signal_pending())
return -EINTR;
kind of thing, because *when* you do this, you obviously are always on the
run-queue (otherwise the process wouldn't be running, and couldn't be
doing the test). So if there is somebody else waking you up right then and
there, they'll never count your wakeup as an exclusive one, and they will
wake up at least one other real exclusive waiter.
(IOW, you get a very very small probability of a very very small
"thundering herd" - obviously it won't be "thundering" any more, it will
be more of a "whispering herdlet").
The Linux kernel sleep/wakeup thing is really quite nifty and smart. And
very few people realize just *how* nifty and elegant (and efficient) it
is. Hopefully a few more people appreciate its beauty and subtlety now ;)
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-05-05 4:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20070504225730.490334000@haxent.com.br>
2007-05-04 23:37 ` Davi Arnaut
2007-05-05 4:15 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-05-05 4:44 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2007-05-05 5:47 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-05-05 19:00 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-05 21:42 ` Davi Arnaut
2007-05-07 21:00 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-07 21:34 ` Davi Arnaut
2007-05-07 22:19 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-07 22:35 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-08 2:49 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-08 3:56 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-05-08 4:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-08 6:30 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-07 23:15 ` Davi Arnaut
2007-05-08 2:32 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-08 3:24 ` Davi Arnaut
2007-05-07 22:47 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-07 15:46 ` Chase Venters
2007-05-07 17:18 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-07 18:17 ` Chase Venters
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=alpine.LFD.0.98.0705042131040.3819@woody.linux-foundation.org \
--to=torvalds@linux-foundation.org \
--cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
--cc=dada1@cosmosbay.com \
--cc=davi@haxent.com.br \
--cc=davidel@xmailserver.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox
all inboxes | Powered by JetHome®