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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>
Cc: Robert Hancock <hancockr@shaw.ca>,
	Olivier Galibert <galibert@pobox.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>, Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@redhat.com>,
	Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] PCI MMCONFIG: add validation against ACPI motherboard resources
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 15:16:23 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.0.98.0705231514410.3890@woody.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200705231506.36229.jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>



On Wed, 23 May 2007, Jesse Barnes wrote:
> >
> > How are those boards going to set up mmconfig? The whole standard is
> > broken, since there is no way to set it up.
> >
> > Trust the firmware? What a piece of crap!
> 
> What do you mean?  You set it up the normal way, by poking at config 
> space to see what's there

HOW DO YOU GET TO THE CONFIG SPACE IN THE FIRST PLACE?

The reason mmconfig is *BROKEN*CRAP* is that you cannot bootstrap it. 
There's no standard way to even figure out WHERE IT IS!

So we depend on firmware tables that are known to be broken!

That crap should be seen for the crap it is! Dammit, how hard can it be to 
just admit that mmconfig isn't that great?

		Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-23 22:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-30  2:14 Robert Hancock
2007-04-30  2:59 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-04-30 22:59 ` Olivier Galibert
2007-04-30 23:26   ` Robert Hancock
2007-05-01 16:48   ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-02  2:41   ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-02  2:56     ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-02  5:27       ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-02 14:34         ` Robert Hancock
2007-05-02 17:57           ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-02 23:45             ` Robert Hancock
2007-05-02 23:54               ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-04 21:06                 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-05  0:22                   ` Robert Hancock
2007-05-21 19:10                   ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-21 19:26                     ` Robert Hancock
2007-05-21 20:07                       ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-21 20:22                         ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-23  0:31                           ` Robert Hancock
2007-05-23  0:38                             ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-23  0:53                               ` Robert Hancock
2007-05-23  0:56                                 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-23  1:06                               ` Robert Hancock
2007-05-23 18:52                                 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-23 20:20                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-23 20:38                                     ` Alan Cox
2007-05-23 20:45                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-23 20:49                                     ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-23 20:56                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-23 21:03                                         ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-23 21:09                                           ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-23 21:35                                             ` Alan Cox
2007-05-23 21:35                                               ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-23 21:37                                               ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-23 21:42                                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-23 23:07                                             ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-05-23 21:54                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-23 22:06                                             ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-23 22:16                                               ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2007-05-23 22:28                                                 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-23 23:04                                                 ` David Miller
2007-05-23 23:11                                                   ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-23 23:15                                                     ` Robert Hancock
2007-05-23 23:21                                                       ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-23 21:20                                         ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-23 22:24                                           ` Olivier Galibert
2007-05-23 22:31                                             ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-23 22:48                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-23 22:55                                               ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-24  0:21                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-24  2:59                                                   ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-24  3:18                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-24  3:20                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-24  3:40                                                         ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-24  5:19                                                           ` Robert Hancock
2007-05-24  6:18                                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-24 15:42                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-23 23:04                                     ` Robert Hancock
2007-05-23 23:04                                   ` Robert Hancock
2007-05-23 23:06                                     ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-24  0:02 ` Jesse Barnes

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