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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: schwidefsky@de.ibm.com, wjiang@resilience.com,
	wensong@linux-vs.org, heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ak@suse.de, cfriesen@nortel.com,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, horms@verge.net.au,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@redhat.com>,
	davem@davemloft.net, zlynx@acm.org,
	Chris Snook <csnook@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] make atomic_t volatile on all architectures
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 23:09:56 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.0.999.0708112305170.30176@woody.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a599bc5062d557db46496f0d7c7886b0@kernel.crashing.org>



On Sun, 12 Aug 2007, Segher Boessenkool wrote:
>
> Note that last line.

Segher, how about you just accept that Linux uses gcc as per reality, and 
that sometimes the reality is different from your expectations?

"+m" works. We use it. It's better than the alternatives. Pointing to 
stale documentation doesn't change anything.

The same is true of accesses through a volatile pointer. The kernel has 
done that for a *loong* time (all MMIO IO is done that way), and it's 
totally pointless to say that "volatile" isn't guaranteed to do what it 
does. It works, and quite frankly, if it didn't work, it would be a gcc 
BUG.

And again, this is not a "C standard" issue. It's a "sane implementation" 
issue. Linux expects the compiler to be sane. If it isn't, that's not our 
problem. gcc *is* sane, and I don't see why you constantly act as if it 
wasn't.

		Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-12  6:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-08 23:07 Chris Snook
2007-08-08 23:18 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-08-08 23:31   ` Chris Snook
2007-08-08 23:51     ` Jesper Juhl
2007-08-08 23:25 ` Lennert Buytenhek
2007-08-08 23:35   ` Chris Snook
2007-08-09  1:03 ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-09  1:48   ` David Miller
2007-08-09  3:47     ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-09  7:47   ` Chris Snook
2007-08-09  8:30     ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-09 11:44       ` Chris Snook
2007-08-09  4:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-09  4:59   ` Jerry Jiang
2007-08-09  7:31   ` Chris Snook
2007-08-09  8:14     ` Heiko Carstens
2007-08-09 17:36     ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-08-09 17:55       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-09 18:20         ` Martin Schwidefsky
2007-08-12  5:53           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-12  6:09             ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2007-08-12  9:48               ` Martin Schwidefsky
2007-08-12  9:54                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-12 16:30                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-12 18:11                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-12 19:13                     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-12 10:27               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-12 17:59                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-12  9:47             ` Martin Schwidefsky
2007-08-12 10:35               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-09 17:57       ` Martin Schwidefsky
     [not found] <8Q2Pg-8uV-23@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <8Q7Fa-7rJ-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <8Q8rD-hh-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-08-09  9:10     ` Bodo Eggert
2007-08-09  9:18       ` Jerry Jiang
2007-08-09 15:00         ` Linus Torvalds

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