From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: Jesse Barnes <jesse.barnes@intel.com>,
Jeff Chua <jeff.chua.linux@gmail.com>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Dave Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
suspend-devel List <suspend-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>
Subject: Re: 2.6.25-rc2 System no longer powers off after suspend-to-disk. Screen becomes green.
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:29:44 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.00.0802201224380.7833@woody.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200802202114.43007.rjw@sisk.pl>
On Wed, 20 Feb 2008, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>
> I think we should export the target sleep state somehow.
Yeah. By *not* using "->suspend()" for freezing or hibernate.
Please, Rafael - just make the f*cking suspend-to-disk use other routines
already. 99% of all hardware needs to do exactly *nothing* on
suspend-to-disk, and the ones that really do need things tend to need to
not do a whole lot.
For example, the "freeze" action for USB (which is one of the hardest
things to suspend) should literally be something like just setting the
controller STOP bit, and waiting for it to have stopped. The "unfreeze"
should be to just clear the stop bit, while the "restart" should be just a
controller reset to use the current memory image.
NONE OF THIS HAS ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING TO DO WITH SUSPEND.
It never did. I've told people so for years. Maybe actually seeing the
problems will make people realize.
So please, we shouldn't call "->suspend[_late]" or "->resume[_early]" at
all. Not with PMSG_FREEZE, not with PMSG_*anything*.
Can we please get this fixed some day?
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-02-20 20:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-02-20 17:17 Jeff Chua
2008-02-20 17:19 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-20 17:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-20 17:37 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-20 17:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-20 18:02 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-21 19:43 ` [Suspend-devel] 2.6.25-rc2 System no longer powers off aftersuspend-to-disk. " Romano Giannetti
2008-02-21 21:02 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-22 0:20 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-22 0:23 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-22 0:42 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-22 0:46 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-22 0:52 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-22 1:02 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-22 1:27 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-22 1:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-22 1:35 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-22 10:37 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-02-22 13:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-22 16:10 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-22 16:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-22 18:01 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-02-23 11:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-22 0:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-22 0:42 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-22 1:01 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-22 1:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-22 0:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-22 0:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-22 1:13 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-22 1:44 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-22 23:31 ` i915 hibernation patch (was: Re: [Suspend-devel] 2.6.25-rc2 System no longer powers off aftersuspend-to-disk. Screen becomes green.) Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-23 1:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-23 1:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-23 2:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-23 4:36 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-23 18:13 ` [PATCH] PM: Introduce PM_EVENT_HIBERNATE (was: Re: i915 hibernation patch (was: Re: 2.6.25-rc2 System no longer ...)) Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-23 18:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-24 8:29 ` Pavel Machek
2008-02-24 15:21 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-24 4:16 ` Mirco Tischler
2008-02-24 11:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-24 11:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-23 11:17 ` i915 hibernation patch (was: Re: [Suspend-devel] 2.6.25-rc2 System no longer powers off aftersuspend-to-disk. Screen becomes green.) Pavel Machek
2008-02-20 17:54 ` 2.6.25-rc2 System no longer powers off after suspend-to-disk. Screen becomes green Jeff Chua
2008-02-20 18:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-18 6:31 ` [Suspend-devel] " Pavel Machek
2008-02-20 18:49 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-20 19:25 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-02-20 18:57 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-20 17:50 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-20 18:29 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-20 18:53 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-20 19:10 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-20 19:18 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-20 20:09 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-20 20:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-20 20:29 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2008-02-20 20:33 ` [Suspend-devel] " Pablo Sanchez
2008-02-20 20:41 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-20 21:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-20 21:44 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-20 22:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-21 8:30 ` david
2008-02-22 16:56 ` Mark Lord
2008-02-22 17:02 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-22 17:32 ` Mark Lord
2008-02-22 17:44 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-22 19:23 ` david
2008-02-22 23:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-20 22:36 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-20 23:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-20 23:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-21 0:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-21 0:13 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-21 0:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-21 0:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-22 16:54 ` Mark Lord
2008-02-20 22:45 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-02-21 0:13 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-02-21 0:40 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-02-21 0:46 ` Greg KH
2008-02-21 1:17 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-02-21 4:43 ` Greg KH
2008-02-21 6:05 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-02-21 6:37 ` Greg KH
2008-02-21 1:10 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-02-21 1:25 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-02-20 20:45 ` [Suspend-devel] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-20 21:26 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-02-20 21:37 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-21 0:35 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-21 0:39 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-21 1:19 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-21 1:21 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-21 1:49 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-21 2:00 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-21 16:27 ` [Suspend-devel] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-21 18:34 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-21 20:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-21 22:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-21 23:45 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-22 0:28 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-22 0:48 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-20 22:32 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-20 23:03 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-20 23:34 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-20 23:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-21 0:17 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-21 1:07 ` [Suspend-devel] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-20 18:47 ` Mark Lord
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-02-20 0:53 Jeff Chua
2008-02-20 1:00 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-20 1:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-20 2:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-20 4:32 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-20 6:19 ` Jeff Chua
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