From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753933AbYDMVOh (ORCPT ); Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:14:37 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751198AbYDMVO0 (ORCPT ); Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:14:26 -0400 Received: from smtp1.linux-foundation.org ([140.211.169.13]:44123 "EHLO smtp1.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751190AbYDMVOZ (ORCPT ); Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:14:25 -0400 Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 14:13:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Linus Torvalds To: Jeff Garzik cc: Daniel Barkalow , Christoph Hellwig , "Kok, Auke" , Ingo Molnar , Matthew Wilcox , Linux Kernel Mailing List , NetDev , e1000-list , linux-pci maillist , Andrew Morton , "David S. Miller" , Jesse Brandeburg , "Ronciak, John" , "Allan, Bruce W" , Greg KH , Arjan van de Ven , "Rafael J. Wysocki" Subject: Re: [patch] e1000=y && e1000e=m regression fix In-Reply-To: <47FFF7B5.3000609@garzik.org> Message-ID: References: <47FBDBE9.9040700@garzik.org> <20080409193850.GA11763@elte.hu> <47FD2325.2030705@intel.com> <47FE5C89.5060209@intel.com> <20080410192714.GA14055@elte.hu> <47FE8566.5040809@intel.com> <20080411112653.GC9205@elte.hu> <20080411113644.GA7767@infradead.org> <20080411121606.GA25661@elte.hu> <47FF9060.5040202@intel.com> <20080411164542.GA4066@infradead.org> <47FFF7B5.3000609@garzik.org> User-Agent: Alpine 1.00 (LFD 882 2007-12-20) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, 11 Apr 2008, Jeff Garzik wrote: > Linus Torvalds wrote: > > .. but that said, I think your patch is certainly better than what we have > > now (or what Ingo was complaining about for the next merge window). I > > certainly could live with it. I would just suggest against ever then > > removing that "generic E1000" choice. > > You mean never ever remove PCI-E support from e1000? No. I mean never ever remove the *configure* level thinking that "e1000 is e1000". There is no sense in *ever* showing it as two drivers to users, because users do not see them as separate chipsets. They look identical, down to the part names. If it's a single family, and users can't even easily tell whether they have version 1 or version 2 (PCI vs PCI-E), you shouldn't even ask them. You should literally ask them: "do you want e1000 support". That's it. Once you have asked them that, you can then decide "ok, if you *really* know what version of the chip you have, you can decide to only get limited driver support". But that's a secondary thing from a user perspective. See the patch I already sent out. Linus