From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Tim Ricketts <tr@earth.li>
Cc: Michael Smith <msmith@xiph.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andy Wingo <wingo@fluendo.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
John Stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: gettimeofday() jumping into the future
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 10:55:33 +0200 (CEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0803311048170.3219@apollo.tec.linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0803302210060.3056@falcon.foo>
On Sun, 30 Mar 2008, Tim Ricketts wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Aug 2007, Michael Smith wrote:
>
> > We've been seeing some strange behaviour on some of our applications
> > recently. I've tracked this down to gettimeofday() returning spurious
> > values occasionally.
> >
> > Specifically, gettimeofday() will suddenly, for a single call, return
> > a value about 4398 seconds (~1 hour 13 minutes) in the future. The
> > following call goes back to a normal value.
>
> I have also seen this.
>
> > This seems to be occurring when the clock source goes slightly
> > backwards for a single call. In
> > kernel/time/timekeeping.c:__get_nsec_offset(), we have this:
> > cycle_delta = (cycle_now - clock->cycle_last) & clock->mask;
> >
> > So a small decrease in time here will (this is all unsigned
> > arithmetic) give us a very large cycle_delta. cyc2ns() then multiplies
> > this by some value, then right shifts by 22. The resulting value (in
> > nanoseconds) is approximately 4398 seconds; this gets added on to the
> > xtime value, giving us our jump into the future. The next call to
> > gettimeofday() returns to normal as we don't have this huge nanosecond
> > offset.
>
> Indeed. I don't know where the suggestion of off by 2^32us came in
> later in this thread. As you've already pointed out, it's off by
> 2^42ns.
>
> I've no idea why the TSC might go backwards, but perhaps we should not
> break horribly if it does. How about treating it as zero?
> + if (cycle_now < clock->cycle_last)
> + return 0;
> +
No, this breaks wrapping clocksources e.g. pmtimer. We need a
different sanity check for that TSC crap.
Thanks,
tglx
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-03-31 8:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-08-23 11:08 Michael Smith
2007-08-23 11:36 ` Gerald Britton
2007-08-23 13:03 ` Avi Kivity
2007-08-23 20:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-08-23 20:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-08-23 11:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-23 12:20 ` Michael Smith
2007-08-23 18:47 ` john stultz
2007-08-25 16:44 ` Michael Smith
2008-03-30 21:17 ` Tim Ricketts
2008-03-31 7:18 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-03 11:47 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2008-04-03 12:22 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2008-04-03 12:44 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2008-04-11 23:11 ` john stultz
2008-03-31 8:55 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2008-03-31 16:03 ` John Stultz
2008-04-02 11:22 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-04-02 23:57 ` Karsten Wiese
2008-04-03 6:28 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-04-02 4:26 ` Mihai Donțu
2008-04-02 4:27 ` Mihai Donțu
[not found] <47F3F313.7030803@vmware.com>
2008-04-02 22:40 ` Tim Mann
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