From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1760795AbYDZRg3 (ORCPT ); Sat, 26 Apr 2008 13:36:29 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751658AbYDZRgW (ORCPT ); Sat, 26 Apr 2008 13:36:22 -0400 Received: from smtp1.linux-foundation.org ([140.211.169.13]:41714 "EHLO smtp1.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751122AbYDZRgV (ORCPT ); Sat, 26 Apr 2008 13:36:21 -0400 Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 10:35:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Linus Torvalds To: Adrian Bunk cc: Andrew Morton , Harvey Harrison , Mauro Carvalho Chehab , LKML Subject: Re: If you want me to quit I will quit In-Reply-To: <20080426172748.GP2252@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> Message-ID: References: <1209190455.14173.13.camel@brick> <20080426110044.GB2252@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> <20080426075132.b0fdbe13.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20080426152341.GI2252@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> <20080426084420.8e61c379.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20080426171604.GN2252@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> <20080426102024.4c65624d.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20080426172748.GP2252@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> User-Agent: Alpine 1.10 (LFD 962 2008-03-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, 26 Apr 2008, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 10:20:24AM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: > > > > I expect that means "don't alter stuff after you've sent the pull request". > > That'd be fairly dumb. > > > > But during the two-month -rcX timeframe the patches in the git and quilt > > trees get altered, dropped, reordered regularly. Some of the git trees > > don't really exist, I believe - their owners assemble them from a > > quilt-based master tree for external sharing only. > > As far as I understand it, changes in Daves tree would cause problems > for people like Jeff Garzik and John Linville who themselves base their > work on Daves tree during the two-month -rcX timeframe. Yes. It really depends on how people use those trees. For trees that are *only* used for basically throw-away single-use testing (ie -mm and -next, both of which will always re-build the whole tree each time), changing a published tree doesn't matter at all, or matters very little. But once you get real people, rather than automation, that actually want to do development on top of a git tree, then rebuilding that tree is really really annoying for those users. So the networking tree, where you have other maintainers that are also git users, really shouldn't be rebuilt, because that messes with developers. Many other git trees are really more of a "private development trees that are exposed to -mm and -next to get some wider testing". Linus