From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1765473AbYD3UcH (ORCPT ); Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:32:07 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1759465AbYD3Ubz (ORCPT ); Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:31:55 -0400 Received: from smtp1.linux-foundation.org ([140.211.169.13]:46103 "EHLO smtp1.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756441AbYD3Uby (ORCPT ); Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:31:54 -0400 Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:31:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Linus Torvalds To: Andrew Morton cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" , davem@davemloft.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jirislaby@gmail.com Subject: Re: Slow DOWN, please!!! In-Reply-To: <20080430131537.1f7a0914.akpm@linux-foundation.org> Message-ID: References: <20080429.190352.137408408.davem@davemloft.net> <200804302136.58005.rjw@sisk.pl> <20080430131537.1f7a0914.akpm@linux-foundation.org> User-Agent: Alpine 1.10 (LFD 962 2008-03-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 30 Apr 2008, Andrew Morton wrote: > > > > There should be nothing in 2.6.x-rc1 which wasn't in 2.6.x-mm1! The problem I see with both -mm and linux-next is that they tend to be better at finding the "physical conflict" kind of issues (ie the merge itself fails) than the "code looks ok but doesn't actually work" kind of issue. Why? The tester base is simply too small. Now, if *that* could be improved, that would be wonderful, but I'm not seeing it as very likely. I think we have fairly good penetration these days with the regular -git tree, but I think that one is quite frankly a *lot* less scary than -mm or -next are, and there it has been an absolutely huge boon to get the kernel into the Fedora test-builds etc (and I _think_ Ubuntu and SuSE also started something like that). So I'm very pessimistic about getting a lot of test coverage before -rc1. Maybe too pessimistic, who knows? Linus