From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1761538AbYEAS2U (ORCPT ); Thu, 1 May 2008 14:28:20 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754285AbYEAS2H (ORCPT ); Thu, 1 May 2008 14:28:07 -0400 Received: from smtp1.linux-foundation.org ([140.211.169.13]:55423 "EHLO smtp1.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752401AbYEAS2G (ORCPT ); Thu, 1 May 2008 14:28:06 -0400 Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 11:23:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Linus Torvalds To: Al Viro cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" , Andrew Morton , Willy Tarreau , David Miller , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jiri Slaby Subject: Re: Slow DOWN, please!!! In-Reply-To: <20080501181157.GB5882@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> Message-ID: References: <20080429.190352.137408408.davem@davemloft.net> <200805011259.47343.rjw@sisk.pl> <200805011909.40203.rjw@sisk.pl> <20080501181157.GB5882@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 1.10 (LFD 962 2008-03-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, 1 May 2008, Al Viro wrote: > On Thu, May 01, 2008 at 10:41:21AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > > Same goes for "we should all just spend time looking at each others > > patches and trying to find bugs in them". That's not a solution, that's a > > drug-induced dream you're living in. > > As one of those obviously drug-addled freaks who _are_ looking for bugs... > Thank you so fucking much ;-/ That's not what I meant, and I think you know it. Of course as many people as possible should look at other peoples patches and comment on them. But saying so won't _make_ it so. And it's also something that we have done since day #1 _anyway_, so anybody who thinks that it would improve code quality from where we already are, should explain how he thinks the increase would be caused, and how it would happen. So when we're looking at improvement suggestions, they should be real suggestions that have realistic goals, not just wishes. And they shouldn't be the things we *already* do, because then they wouldn't be improvements. In other words: do people have realistic ideas for how to make others spend _more_ time looking at patches? And not just _wishing_ people did that? Linus