From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757735AbYEEPJG (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 May 2008 11:09:06 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754219AbYEEPIz (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 May 2008 11:08:55 -0400 Received: from smtp1.linux-foundation.org ([140.211.169.13]:47026 "EHLO smtp1.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753486AbYEEPIy (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 May 2008 11:08:54 -0400 Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 08:08:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Linus Torvalds To: Jeff Garzik cc: Jan Engelhardt , Rusty Russell , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jon Masters , Sam Ravnborg Subject: Re: changeset: Make forced module loading optional In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <200805051455.02723.rusty@rustcorp.com.au> <481F1EB3.3040906@garzik.org> User-Agent: Alpine 1.10 (LFD 962 2008-03-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, 5 May 2008, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > Right. Which is why I build the stuff into my kernel that is required, and > then initrd can do whatever it damn well pleases. Btw, I realize that a distro *can* make an initrd that only works with their own kernel. I personally suspect I'll just switch distros if that happens - I'm already irritated enough with startup scripts etc that complain about "/proc/modules: No such file or directory" for stuff that is already compiled in because they want to check if it's loaded. But quite frankly, the distro really shouldn't need to make their startup scripts (whether on initrd or just the regular /etc/rc.d/ ones) so fragile. And quite frankly, I don't understand why people seem to use a kernel *BUG* as an excuse to say that I shouldn't do what I have always done - replace just the kernel. Linus