From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S934099AbYEGW7p (ORCPT ); Wed, 7 May 2008 18:59:45 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1764433AbYEGW7L (ORCPT ); Wed, 7 May 2008 18:59:11 -0400 Received: from www.tglx.de ([62.245.132.106]:60956 "EHLO www.tglx.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1765463AbYEGW7I (ORCPT ); Wed, 7 May 2008 18:59:08 -0400 Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 00:58:25 +0200 (CEST) From: Thomas Gleixner To: Pavel Machek cc: Adrian Bunk , Yinghai Lu , Rene Herman , Ingo Molnar , Linux Kernel , hpa@zytor.com, torvalds@linux-foundation.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org Subject: Re: 2.6.26, PAT and AMD family 6 In-Reply-To: <20080507221435.GH18516@elf.ucw.cz> Message-ID: References: <48210A71.1060409@keyaccess.nl> <86802c440805061939q39ff5500h3c9e229ecbc6b2e6@mail.gmail.com> <20080507124650.GD29935@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> <20080507212343.GB14951@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> <20080507221435.GH18516@elf.ucw.cz> User-Agent: Alpine 1.10 (LFD 962 2008-03-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, 8 May 2008, Pavel Machek wrote: > > Actually no, that's not a good reason to yell at _him_. I'm glad, that we can agree on this. > But it is _perfectly valid_ reason to yell at whoever commited that > to x86 tree, given that: > > 1) it has empty changelog (come on, "review" a patch and not notice > that changelog is empty?!) Granted as I said before. > 2) HPA said it was bad idea Interpretation. > 3) copy&paste code remained in the patch Yes, it should have been done better. So we made mistakes, but is this a justification for magnifying that to be the major contribution to the end of the universe ? Definitely not. I have no problem to admit a mistake, but I vehemently fight the way how such incidents are artificially exxagerated in the recent past. I personally have broad enough shoulders to cope with the fact that bashing on x86 maintainers and trying to play them out against each other is currently en vogue. But I have no understanding at all for the snotty way how valuable contributors are treated even when the responsibility of the actual merging of their imperfect patch is out of their scope. Thanks, tglx