From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757470AbYEHAWH (ORCPT ); Wed, 7 May 2008 20:22:07 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752935AbYEHAVw (ORCPT ); Wed, 7 May 2008 20:21:52 -0400 Received: from www.tglx.de ([62.245.132.106]:55295 "EHLO www.tglx.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752797AbYEHAVu (ORCPT ); Wed, 7 May 2008 20:21:50 -0400 Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 02:21:24 +0200 (CEST) From: Thomas Gleixner To: Rene Herman cc: "H. Peter Anvin" , Adrian Bunk , Yinghai Lu , Ingo Molnar , Linux Kernel , torvalds@linux-foundation.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, Pavel Machek Subject: Re: 2.6.26, PAT and AMD family 6 In-Reply-To: <48224507.8010102@keyaccess.nl> Message-ID: References: <48210A71.1060409@keyaccess.nl> <86802c440805061939q39ff5500h3c9e229ecbc6b2e6@mail.gmail.com> <20080507124650.GD29935@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> <48221AE3.6020602@keyaccess.nl> <482233F0.7040000@zytor.com> <48224318.8020209@keyaccess.nl> <48224361.5080102@zytor.com> <48224507.8010102@keyaccess.nl> User-Agent: Alpine 1.10 (LFD 962 2008-03-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, 8 May 2008, Rene Herman wrote: > On 08-05-08 02:03, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > > Rene Herman wrote: > > > > > > > > Okay, that is utter nonsense. /proc/cpuinfo has always been, and will > > > > always be, the CPU *AS THE KERNEL SEES IT*. If you want something else, > > > > use x86info(1). > > > > > > What a lovely way of syncing reality with your definitions. The kernel > > > _does_ see that my CPU features PAT, it just refuses to use it because > > > it doesn't trust it enough. Vital difference. Maybe not to the kernel, > > > but definitely to me, the user. /proc/cpuinfo is a user interface. > > > > > > > No, /proc/cpuinfo is informing the user about the kernel's view of the CPU. > > And again, the kernel DOES see that my CPU features PAT, it just refuses > to use it. Yuck, because your CPU has the PAT feature the kernel has an obligation to support it ? Nice try. tglx