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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: pageexec@freemail.hu
Cc: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stable@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:42:58 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0807151331110.2867@woody.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <487D2371.10258.1BDBBC00@pageexec.freemail.hu>



On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, pageexec@freemail.hu wrote:
> 
> i understand and i think noone expects that. in fact, i know how much
> expertise and time it takes to determine that. but what happens when
> you do figure out the security relevance of a bug during bug submission

The issue is that I think it's then _misleading_ to mark that kind of 
commit specially, when I actually believe that it's in the minority.

If people think that they are safer for only applying (or upgrading to) 
certain patches that are marked as being security-specific, they are 
missing all the ones that weren't marked as such. Making them even 
_believe_ that the magic security marking is meaningful is simply a lie. 
It's not going to be.

So why would I add some marking that I most emphatically do not believe in 
myself, and think is just mostly security theater?

I generally do not remove peoples changelog entries, although I _will_ 
do even that if I think it's just too much of an actual exploit 
description (of course - the patch itself can make the exploit fairly 
clear). So you'll find CVE entries etc in the logs if you look.

But I do hope that anybody who looks for them is _aware_ that it's just a 
small minority of possible problems.

Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying that security bugs are _common_, but 
especially some local DoS thing for a specific driver or filesystem or 
whatever can be a big security problem for _somebody_.

			Linus



  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-15 20:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-03  3:58 Greg KH
2008-07-03  3:58 ` Greg KH
2008-07-03 17:08 ` Bart Van Assche
2008-07-03 17:29   ` Greg KH
2008-07-03 18:57     ` Greg KH
2008-07-03 19:31       ` pageexec
2008-07-14 12:04         ` [stable] " Greg KH
2008-07-15  2:14           ` pageexec
2008-07-15  2:27             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 15:31               ` pageexec
2008-07-15 16:07                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 16:13                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-17 21:08                     ` Aidan Thornton
2008-07-15 19:03                   ` pageexec
2008-07-15 19:16                     ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]                       ` <487D20EC.26203.1BD1E5C5@pageexec.freemail.hu>
2008-07-15 20:18                         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 20:23                           ` pageexec
2008-07-15 20:42                             ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2008-07-15 21:18                               ` pageexec
2008-07-15 21:26                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 22:08                                   ` pageexec
2008-07-15 23:28                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-16  0:00                                       ` Tiago Assumpcao
2008-07-16  0:16                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-16  0:38                                           ` Tiago Assumpcao
2008-07-16  0:51                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-16  1:10                                               ` Tiago Assumpcao
2008-07-16  1:41                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-16  2:24                                                   ` Tiago Assumpcao
2008-07-16  3:11                                                     ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-16  9:49                                                   ` pageexec
2008-07-16 10:08                                                     ` David Miller
2008-07-16 10:23                                                       ` pageexec
2008-07-16 10:31                                                         ` David Miller
2008-07-16 10:51                                                           ` pageexec
2008-07-16 11:04                                                             ` David Miller
2008-07-16 11:52                                                               ` pageexec
2008-07-16  3:13                                                 ` Greg KH
2008-07-16  9:01                                                   ` pageexec
2008-07-16  9:35                                                     ` Gabor Gombas
2008-07-16 10:04                                                       ` pageexec
2008-07-16 14:43                                                     ` Greg KH
2008-07-16 15:43                                                       ` pageexec
2008-07-16 16:29                                                         ` Greg KH
2008-07-16 17:25                                                           ` pageexec
2008-07-16 18:08                                                             ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-16 19:09                                                               ` pageexec
2008-07-17  3:43                                                             ` Mike Galbraith
2008-07-16  1:08                                         ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-16  1:30                                           ` pageexec
2008-07-16  1:53                                           ` Tiago Assumpcao
2008-07-16  2:02                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-16  2:36                                               ` Tiago Assumpcao
2008-07-16  4:07                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-16  4:16                                                   ` Tiago Assumpcao
2008-07-16  3:27                                             ` Casey Schaufler
2008-07-16  4:13                                               ` Tiago Assumpcao
2008-07-16  4:21                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-16  5:02                                                   ` Tiago Assumpcao
2008-07-16  5:13                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-16  5:26                                                 ` Casey Schaufler
2008-07-16  9:33                                               ` pageexec
2008-07-16 13:21                                                 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-16 15:16                                                   ` pageexec
2008-07-16  0:04                                       ` pageexec
2008-07-16  0:24                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-16  0:56                                           ` pageexec
2008-07-16  1:08                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-16  1:23                                               ` pageexec
2008-07-17  7:19                                 ` Rafael C. de Almeida
2008-07-17  7:59                                   ` pageexec
2008-07-17  4:21                       ` Phil Pell
2008-07-15 18:33                 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-15 20:28                   ` pageexec
2008-07-15 22:39                     ` Greg KH
2008-07-15 22:47                       ` David Miller
2008-07-15 23:08                         ` Tiago Assumpcao
2008-07-15 23:21                           ` David Miller
2008-07-15 23:26                             ` pageexec
2008-07-15 23:26                             ` Tiago Assumpcao
2008-07-15 23:22                         ` pageexec
2008-07-15 23:35                           ` David Miller
2008-07-15 23:09                       ` pageexec
2008-07-15 20:15               ` Tiago Assumpcao
2008-07-20  1:13                 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2008-07-15 23:34               ` Tiago Assumpcao
2008-07-19  0:47           ` David Schwartz
2008-07-19  1:01             ` david
2008-07-19  1:51               ` David Schwartz
2008-07-19  5:41                 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-07-05  7:54     ` Bart Van Assche
2008-07-08  4:12       ` Greg KH

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