From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
mingo@elte.hu, tglx@linutronix.de, marcin.slusarz@gmail.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Paul E McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] printk vs rq->lock and xtime lock
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 10:25:00 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0808081014240.3462@nehalem.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1218215454.8625.133.camel@twins>
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>
> Sure, but the RCU callback period is at least 3 jiffies and much longer
> when busy - I'm not sure how long before we force a grace period, we do
> that to avoid DoS, right Paul?
I really don't think it matters. klogd is going to write the thing to
_disk_ (or network), and three jiffies really don't matter. If we can fill
the buffer in that kind of time, we're screwed for other reasons anyway.
> So this version would have a much higher risk of overflowing the console
> buffer and making klogd miss bits. Then again, I really don't care about
> klogd at _all_, I've been running with the wakeup patched out for ages.
Well, I'd care a _bit_ about klogd, but not enough to worry about a couple
of jiffies. We want to wake it up at some point, but...
> Gah, the below doesn't boot - because I guess we start using rcu before
> its properly set up.. should I poke at it more?
I'd certainly prefer this kind of approach. However, may I suggest:
- doing the "waitqueue_active(&log_wait)" before even bothering to do the
RCU call. That, btw, will automatically mean that we wouldn't ever call
the RCU code before anything is initialized.
- get rid of the "oops_in_progress" thing, since I think the whole point
of that was to avoid getting the lock recursively in the first place.
- I'd worry about the "spin_lock_irqsave(&klogd_wakeup_state.lock)". What
if the printk happens from call_rcu()? This is exactly what we're
trying to get away from - having some parts of the kernel not able to
printk() because of subtle locking issues.
For that last thing, maybe we can just make it a percpu thing and just
disable irq's?
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-08-08 17:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-03-24 12:24 Peter Zijlstra
2008-03-24 12:24 ` [PATCH 1/2] printk_nowakeup() Peter Zijlstra
2008-03-24 12:24 ` [PATCH 2/2] time: xtime lock vs printk Peter Zijlstra
2008-03-24 14:21 ` Daniel Walker
2008-03-24 14:31 ` [PATCH 0/2] printk vs rq->lock and xtime lock Marcin Slusarz
2008-03-24 17:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-24 18:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-03-24 18:57 ` Andrew Morton
2008-08-08 13:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-08 13:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-08 16:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-08 17:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-08 17:25 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2008-08-08 17:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-08 17:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-08 18:14 ` [PATCH] printk: robustify printk Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-08 18:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-08 18:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-08 19:14 ` Andrew Morton
2008-08-08 19:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-08 19:37 ` Andrew Morton
2008-08-08 19:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-08 20:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-08 20:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-08 20:46 ` Andrew Morton
2008-08-08 20:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-08 21:13 ` Andrew Morton
2008-08-08 20:50 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-08-08 19:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-11 10:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-11 11:03 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-11 11:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-11 11:42 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-11 14:15 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-08-11 14:29 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-11 14:55 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-08-11 12:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-11 12:14 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-11 11:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-11 11:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-11 12:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-20 12:40 ` Jiri Kosina
2008-08-20 12:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-20 13:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-11 16:09 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-11 13:22 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-08 20:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-08 20:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-08 21:35 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-08 23:02 ` David Miller
2008-08-09 0:18 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-08 17:52 ` [PATCH 0/2] printk vs rq->lock and xtime lock Steven Rostedt
2008-03-24 18:16 ` Linus Torvalds
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