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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
Cc: OGAWA Hirofumi <hirofumi@mail.parknet.co.jp>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] readdir mess
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:04:05 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0808121500340.3462@nehalem.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080812215441.GY28946@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>



On Tue, 12 Aug 2008, Al Viro wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 02:24:04PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > 
> > You'd truncate the inode number. What's the big deal? Inode numbers aren't 
> > that important - they're just about the _least_ important part of the data 
> > returned for a readdir. 
> 
> Tell that to tar(1) ;-)

The thing is, you still have the low 32 (or 16) bits, so even tar is 
better off most of the time. 

Let's face it, we actually always truncate things as-is. What are inode 
numbers on NFS but truncated file handles? 

And the other side of the coin is that legacy binaries are almost never 
_system_ binaries. You upgrade those with your system They are some odd 
special-purpose thing.

> Anyway, the point for getdents() is simply that we *do* return an error; it's
> just that it ends up with -EINVAL instead of -EOVERFLOW, and that's simply
> bogus - we should either truncate silently or return the right value.  The
> code definitely intends to do the latter and fucks up.

I agree. However, the reason it f*cks up is exactly the fact that we have 
two different error numbers, which was why I suggested that if we really 
want to fix this problem and are talking about cleaning things up, then 
_that_ should be our primary place to look at.

Yes, it implies fixing and checking a lot of low-level filesystems. I 
agree. It's easier to just leave it be. 

			Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-12 22:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-12  6:22 Al Viro
2008-08-12 17:02 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2008-08-12 17:18   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-12 18:10     ` Al Viro
2008-08-12 18:22       ` Al Viro
2008-08-12 18:37         ` Al Viro
2008-08-12 19:24           ` Al Viro
2008-08-12 20:02       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-12 20:21       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-12 20:38         ` Al Viro
2008-08-12 21:04           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-13  0:04             ` Al Viro
2008-08-13  0:28               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-13  1:19                 ` Al Viro
2008-08-13  1:51                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-13  8:36               ` Brad Boyer
2008-08-13 16:19                 ` Al Viro
2008-08-15  5:06               ` Jan Harkes
2008-08-15  5:34                 ` Al Viro
2008-08-15 16:58                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-24 10:10                   ` Al Viro
2008-08-24 11:03                     ` Al Viro
2008-08-25 16:16                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-08-24 17:20                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-24 19:59                       ` Al Viro
2008-08-24 23:51                         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-25  1:33                           ` Al Viro
2008-08-25  1:44                             ` Al Viro
2008-08-12 19:45     ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2008-08-12 20:05       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-12 20:59         ` Al Viro
2008-08-12 21:24           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-12 21:54             ` Al Viro
2008-08-12 22:04               ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2008-08-13 16:20                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-08-12 21:47         ` Alan Cox
2008-08-12 22:20           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-12 22:10             ` Alan Cox

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