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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alok Kataria <akataria@vmware.com>,
	Arjan van de Veen <arjan@infradead.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: [RFC patch 0/4] TSC calibration improvements
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 14:09:39 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0809041403450.3117@nehalem.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080904205236.GA3864@elte.hu>



On Thu, 4 Sep 2008, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> hm, unless i'm missing something i think here we still have a small 
> window for an SMI or some virtualization delay to slip in and cause 
> massive inaccuracy: if the delay happens _after_ the last 
> pit_expect_msb() and _before_ the external get_cycles() call. Right?

Yes. I had the extra pit_expect_msb() originally, but decided that 
basically a single-instruction race for somethign that ran without 
any MSI for 15ms was a bit pointless.

But adding another pit_expect_msb() is certainly not wrong. 

However, this one is:

> +	/*
> +	 * The iteration assumes that expect never goes below zero:
> +	 */
> +	BUILD_BUG_ON(QUICK_PIT_ITERATIONS >= 0xff);

No it doesn't. "expect" is unsigned char and will happily wrap, as will 
the PIT timer. The fact that it is in "single shot" mode doesn't actually 
mean that the timer stops, it just affects what happens when it goes down 
to zero. 

So that BUILD_BUG_ON() is misleading and incorrect.

Of course, it is true that in _practice_ you would never actually want to 
delay that long, but the code as written should be perfectly happy to 
iterate arbitrarily many times. Of course, the actual final TSC 
multiply/divide calculations would overflow at some point, but that's much 
further down the line.

			Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-04 21:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-04 15:18 Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-04 15:18 ` [RFC patch 1/4] x86: TSC: define the PIT latch value separate Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-04 15:18 ` [RFC patch 2/4] x86: TSC: separate hpet/pmtimer calculation out Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-04 15:18 ` [RFC patch 3/4] x86: TSC: use one set of reference variables Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-04 15:18 ` [RFC patch 4/4] x86: TSC make the calibration loop smarter Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-04 15:36 ` [RFC patch 0/4] TSC calibration improvements Ingo Molnar
2008-09-04 15:45   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-04 16:00     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-04 16:21       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-04 16:36         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-04 17:41         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-04 18:07           ` Alan Cox
2008-09-04 18:26             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-04 18:30               ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-04 20:09               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-04 20:43                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-04 20:52                   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-04 21:09                     ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2008-09-04 21:21                       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-04 21:30                         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-04 21:34                           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-04 21:39                             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-04 21:33                       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-05 22:18                         ` Alok Kataria
2008-09-05 22:34                           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-06 20:03                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-06 20:29                               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-06 20:37                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-06 20:50                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-06 20:55                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-06 21:15                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-06 21:22                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-06 21:30                                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-06 22:40                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-06 20:58                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-06 21:10                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-07  6:01                                         ` Willy Tarreau
2008-09-06 20:52                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-06 20:59                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-06 21:07                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-06 21:15                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-06 21:26                                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-06 21:32                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-04 20:53                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-04 21:38                 ` Alok Kataria
2008-09-04 21:52                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-04 22:09                     ` Alok Kataria
2008-09-04 17:39     ` Alok Kataria
2008-09-04 17:53       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-04 18:31         ` Alok Kataria
2008-09-04 18:34           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-04 21:00   ` Valdis.Kletnieks

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