From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755154AbYIYXfi (ORCPT ); Thu, 25 Sep 2008 19:35:38 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753797AbYIYXfa (ORCPT ); Thu, 25 Sep 2008 19:35:30 -0400 Received: from smtp1.linux-foundation.org ([140.211.169.13]:37176 "EHLO smtp1.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753783AbYIYXf3 (ORCPT ); Thu, 25 Sep 2008 19:35:29 -0400 Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:33:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Linus Torvalds To: Ingo Molnar cc: Steven Rostedt , Martin Bligh , Peter Zijlstra , Martin Bligh , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Thomas Gleixner , Andrew Morton , prasad@linux.vnet.ibm.com, Mathieu Desnoyers , "Frank Ch. Eigler" , David Wilder , hch@lst.de, Tom Zanussi , Steven Rostedt Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/3] Unified trace buffer In-Reply-To: <20080925221441.GA29060@elte.hu> Message-ID: References: <20080925195522.GA22248@elte.hu> <20080925201211.GA1878@elte.hu> <20080925211017.GA12689@elte.hu> <20080925214134.GA23025@elte.hu> <20080925221441.GA29060@elte.hu> User-Agent: Alpine 1.10 (LFD 962 2008-03-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, 26 Sep 2008, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > i do not understand this argument of yours. (really) > > 1) is your point that we might lock up? Have you at all followed the discussion about the people who asked for cross-CPU ordering? They wanted not timestamps at all, but global atomic counter updates. Which is very reasonable, if timestamps don't work (and jiffies certainly doesn't, especially in a NOHZ environment). IOW, my whole argument is that what tracers want is _not_ the same thing as what "sched_clock()" wants. Linus