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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: Large stack usage in fs code (especially for PPC64)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:18:44 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0811171309580.18283@nehalem.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.10.0811171557370.26123@gandalf.stny.rr.com>



On Mon, 17 Nov 2008, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> 
> Here's my stack after boot up with CONFIG_IRQSTACKS set. Seems that 
> softirqs still use the same stack as the process.

Yes.

> This is still 12K. Kind of big even for a 16K stack.

And while that 1kB+ stack slot for block_read_full_page still stands out 
like a sore thumb, I do agree that there's way too many other functions 
too with big stack frames.

I do wonder just _what_ it is that causes the stack frames to be so 
horrid. For example, you have

	 18)     8896     160   .kmem_cache_alloc+0xfc/0x140

and I'm looking at my x86-64 compile, and it has a stack frame of just 8 
bytes (!) for local variables plus the save/restore area (which looks like 
three registers plus frame pointer plus return address). IOW, if I'm 
looking at the code right (so big caveat: I did _not_ do a real stack 
dump!) the x86-64 stack cost for that same function is on the order of 48 
bytes. Not 160.

Where does that factor-of-three+ difference come from? From the numbers, I 
suspect ppc64 has a 32-byte stack alignment, which may be part of it, and 
I guess the compiler is more eager to use all those extra registers and 
will happily have many more callee-saved regs that are actually used.

But that still a _lot_ of extra stack.

Of course, you may have things like spinlock debugging etc enabled. Some 
of our debugging options do tend to blow things up.

			Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-17 21:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-17 20:34 Steven Rostedt
2008-11-17 20:59 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-17 21:18   ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2008-11-17 21:25     ` Pekka Enberg
2008-11-18  0:54     ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-18  1:05       ` Paul Mackerras
2008-11-18  1:41         ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-18  2:01           ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-17 22:16   ` Paul Mackerras
2008-11-17 23:30     ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-17 23:04   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-11-18  2:29   ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-18  2:36     ` Paul Mackerras
2008-11-18  5:40       ` David Miller
2008-11-17 21:08 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-17 21:23   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-11-17 21:31     ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-17 21:42       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-11-17 23:17       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-11-17 21:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-11-17 22:53   ` Paul Mackerras
2008-11-18 10:07     ` Nick Piggin
2008-11-17 23:13   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-11-17 23:22     ` Josh Boyer
2008-11-17 23:28     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-11-18  0:11       ` Paul Mackerras
2008-11-18  2:08         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-11-18 10:24           ` Nick Piggin
2008-11-18 11:44             ` Paul Mackerras
2008-11-18 16:02             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-11-18  7:25       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-11-17 23:03 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-11-18  9:53   ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-11-18 10:37     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-17 23:30 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt

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