Re: [PATCH 3/3] utrace-based ftrace "process" engine, v2

[Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>]

On Mon, 23 Mar 2009, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote:
> > I have CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO turned off in 99.9% of my kernel builds, 
> > because it slows down the kernel build times significantly: [...]
> 
> OK, 15% longer time.

It's way more than that if you don't have tons of memory and excessive 
amounts of CPU power.

> > 2)
> > 
> > When the kernel build becomes IO-bound [...]
> >   without:   870.36 user 292.79 system 3:32.10 elapsed  548% CPU
> >   with:      929.65 user 384.55 system 8:28.70 elapsed  258% CPU
> 
> OK, lots of network traffic.

This is the _normal_ situation for a debug info build.  If it's not 
network traffic (distcc), it's just disk IO. Have you tried it on a 
laptop? Ingo is not the only one that turns off DEBUG_INFO in disgust. 
It's totally useless for any sane kernel developer - the costs are 
excessive.

Adn that's totally ignoring the disk usage of multiple debug info kernels.

> Note that this backs away from earlier claims that we can make do
> without debuginfo, or that the compiler can't be trusted to build the
> stuff.  We all agree it'd be nice if made it better and made a little
> less.

Gaah. I'd wish you all agreed that DEBUG_INFO is just TOTALLY UNREALISTIC.

			Linus