From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] core kernel fixes
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 19:12:43 +0200 (CEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0906211553150.2784@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.01.0906201154230.4160@localhost.localdomain>
On Sat, 20 Jun 2009, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Jun 2009, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> >
> > On x86, the natural way to do what you want done is ONE SINGLE
> > INSTRUCTION! As far as I can tell, the above crazy function is 100%
> > equivalent to this:
> >
> > asm __inline__("lock ; addl $0,%0":"+m" (*uaddr): :"memory", "cc");
> >
> > which really makes me think that using "get_user_pages_fast()" for it is
> > some truly crazy crap.
>
> We could also take the opposite approach - knowing that this is called
> only when the page doesn't exist, and just doing
>
> down_read(mmap_sem)
> vma = find_vma(..)
> ret = VM_FAULT_ERROR;
> if (vma && vma->vm_start <= address)
> ret = handle_mm_fault(mm, vma, address, 1);
> up_read(mmap_sem);
> return (ret & VM_FAULT_ERROR) ? -EFAULT : 0;
>
> or something like that. Again, that looks saner than using
> get_user_pages() for this and then dropping the page.
Hmm. The main reason why we switched to get_user_pages_fast() in the
futex code is to avoid mmap_sem contention which was observed as a
real big performance problem especially with those horrible JavaVM
applications.
As a fallout of this we got rid of the private find_vma /
handle_mm_fault magic (as above) in the futex code which mm folks
frowned upon for quite a while. Unfortunately we got it wrong :(
I agree that in the fault path we might go back to the mmap_sem
version, but I want to avoid it when possible. At least we need to run
some of those horrible JavaVM apps to see whether it matters or not.
OTOH, I really wonder whether we can simplify the whole logic when we
keep the page reference for the atomic access to the user space
address, but I still have doubts about the life time rules of all
this. Also I need to find out how this would affect the fast path
optimization of private futexes where we avoid the lookup in the first
place.
Thanks,
tglx
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-06-21 17:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-06-20 17:30 Ingo Molnar
2009-06-20 18:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-20 19:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-20 20:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-21 17:12 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2009-06-21 17:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-21 17:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-21 19:26 ` Thomas Gleixner
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2017-12-06 22:01 Ingo Molnar
2017-11-05 14:33 Ingo Molnar
2017-11-05 18:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-05 19:53 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-11-05 20:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-05 21:01 ` Josh Poimboeuf
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2012-08-03 16:55 ` Darren Hart
2012-08-03 17:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-08-03 17:24 ` Darren Hart
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2010-10-05 20:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-10-05 21:09 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-10-05 21:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-10-05 22:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-10-06 2:56 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-10-06 4:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-10-06 18:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-06 21:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-10-07 8:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-07 17:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-09-08 13:04 Ingo Molnar
2010-03-26 14:53 Ingo Molnar
2010-03-13 16:35 Ingo Molnar
2009-12-18 18:52 Ingo Molnar
2009-11-10 17:53 Ingo Molnar
2009-10-23 14:53 Ingo Molnar
2009-10-13 18:29 Ingo Molnar
2009-10-08 19:06 Ingo Molnar
2009-10-08 19:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-08 19:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-21 13:13 Ingo Molnar
2009-08-13 18:54 Ingo Molnar
2009-08-09 16:07 Ingo Molnar
2009-08-09 18:41 ` Darren Hart
2009-07-10 16:28 Ingo Molnar
2009-07-10 19:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-10 19:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-07-10 19:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-10 20:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-07-13 14:52 ` Joerg Roedel
2009-05-18 14:23 Ingo Molnar
2009-05-18 15:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-05-18 19:20 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-05-19 20:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-05-19 21:45 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-05-19 22:20 ` Darren Hart
2009-05-05 9:33 Ingo Molnar
2009-01-30 23:12 [git pull] " Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 17:24 Ingo Molnar
2009-01-11 14:36 Ingo Molnar
2008-12-04 19:39 Ingo Molnar
2008-11-29 19:36 Ingo Molnar
2008-11-18 14:14 Ingo Molnar
2008-11-07 16:28 Ingo Molnar
2008-10-30 23:29 Ingo Molnar
2008-10-15 12:50 [git pull] core kernel updates for v2.6.28 Ingo Molnar
2008-10-16 22:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-17 6:23 ` [git pull] core kernel fixes Ingo Molnar
2008-08-28 11:44 Ingo Molnar
2008-08-18 18:35 Ingo Molnar
2008-07-24 15:13 Ingo Molnar
2008-06-30 15:32 Ingo Molnar
2008-06-30 17:02 ` Vegard Nossum
2008-06-30 18:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-06-30 18:43 ` Vegard Nossum
2008-06-30 19:46 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-06-30 19:51 ` Vegard Nossum
2008-06-30 19:54 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-06-23 19:45 Ingo Molnar
2008-06-19 15:16 Ingo Molnar
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