From: John Kacur <jkacur@redhat.com>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Arnd Bergmann <arndbergmann@googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] macintosh: Explicitly set llseek to no_llseek in ans-lcd
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 23:53:21 +0200 (CEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0910212350210.3526@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091021214537.GD4880@nowhere>
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 11:33:17PM +0200, John Kacur wrote:
> > > Should we better pushdown default_llseek to every to every
> > > file operations that don't implement llseek?
> > > I don't know how many of them don't implement llseek() though.
> > >
> > > That said we can't continue anymore with this default attribution
> > > of default_llseek() on new fops.
> > >
> >
> > If you don't explicitly set it to no_llseek, you automatically get the
> > default_llseek, which uses the BKL. So if your driver doesn't need it, it
> > is best to explicitly set it to no_llseek.
>
>
> Sure, that's the right thing to do.
>
>
> > There is also a generic_file_llseek_unlocked, somewhat analogous to the
> > unlocked_ioctls that you can use if you don't need to provide a full
> > llseek yourself.
>
>
> No problem with that. Setting no_llseek or generic_file_llseek_unlocked,
> depending on the context is the right thing to do.
>
> What I'm wondering about concerns the future code that will have
> no llsek() implemented in their fops.
>
> We can't continue to use default_llseek() for future code unless we
> want to continue these post reviews and fixes forever.
>
I'm thinking that the simplier approach, would be to make the
default_llseek the unlocked one. Then you only have to audit the drivers
that have the BKL - ie the ones we are auditing anyway, and explicitly set
them to the bkl locked llseek.
There might be a hidden interaction though between the non-unlocked
variety of ioctls and default llseek though.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-10-21 21:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-10-10 15:35 [patch 00/28] BKL removal queued patches Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-10 15:35 ` [patch 01/28] pm_qos: remove BKL Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-10 16:08 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-10-13 19:12 ` mgross
2009-10-13 19:21 ` Jonathan Corbet
2009-10-13 19:50 ` mgross
2009-10-14 15:44 ` [tip:bkl/core] " tip-bot for Jonathan Corbet
2009-10-10 15:35 ` [patch 02/28] pm_qos: clean up racy global "name" variable Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-10 19:54 ` John Kacur
2009-10-10 20:03 ` Jonathan Corbet
2009-10-10 20:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-10-10 20:58 ` John Kacur
2009-10-14 15:44 ` [tip:bkl/core] " tip-bot for Jonathan Corbet
2009-10-10 15:35 ` [patch 03/28] net: Remove BKL from tun Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-14 8:19 ` David Miller
2009-10-10 15:35 ` [patch 04/28] x86: Remove BKL from microcode Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-14 15:14 ` [tip:x86/cleanups] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-10 15:35 ` [patch 05/28] drivers: Remove BKL from drivers/char/misc.c Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-11 19:24 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-10-14 15:47 ` [tip:bkl/drivers] drivers: Remove BKL from misc_open tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-14 15:55 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-10-14 16:07 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-14 16:12 ` Alan Cox
2009-10-14 16:16 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-14 16:54 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-10-14 17:12 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-10-14 19:38 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-17 17:09 ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-14 18:12 ` Alan Cox
2009-10-14 19:34 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-14 17:58 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-10 15:35 ` [patch 06/28] drivers: Remove BKL from cs5535_gpio Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-14 15:47 ` [tip:bkl/drivers] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-10 15:35 ` [patch 07/28] spi: Remove BKL from spidev_open Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-14 15:48 ` [tip:bkl/drivers] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-10 15:35 ` [patch 08/28] x86: Remove BKL from apm_32 Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-14 15:15 ` [tip:x86/cleanups] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-10 15:36 ` [patch 09/28] sys: Remove BKL from sys_reboot Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-14 15:44 ` [tip:bkl/core] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-10 15:36 ` [patch 10/28] mem_class: Drop the bkl from memory_open() Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-10 15:36 ` [patch 11/28] nvram: Drop the bkl from nvram_llseek() Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-11 19:31 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-10-11 21:08 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-10-11 21:40 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-10-11 21:50 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-10-11 22:14 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-10-13 12:40 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-10-14 21:43 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-11 22:12 ` [PATCH] generic_nvram: Turn nvram_ioctl into an unlocked ioctl Frederic Weisbecker
2009-10-11 22:25 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-10-11 22:39 ` [PATCH v2] " Frederic Weisbecker
2009-10-11 22:40 ` [PATCH] " Frederic Weisbecker
2009-10-12 8:45 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-10-10 15:36 ` [patch 12/28] nvram: Drop the bkl from non-generic nvram_llseek() Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-10 15:36 ` [patch 13/28] s390: Remove BKL from prng Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-13 12:36 ` Jan Glauber
2009-10-14 15:45 ` [tip:bkl/arch] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-10 15:36 ` [patch 14/28] um: Remove BKL from random Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-14 15:45 ` [tip:bkl/arch] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-10 15:36 ` [patch 15/28] um: Remove BKL from mmapper Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-14 15:45 ` [tip:bkl/arch] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-10 15:36 ` [patch 16/28] sparc: Remove BKL from apc Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-03 5:27 ` David Miller
2009-10-10 15:36 ` [patch 17/28] watchdog: Fix probe function of riowd Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-10 15:36 ` [patch 18/28] watchdog: Remove BKL from rio watchdog driver Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-03 5:16 ` David Miller
2009-10-10 15:36 ` [patch 19/28] hw_random: Remove BKL from core Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-14 15:49 ` [tip:bkl/drivers] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-21 20:51 ` [patch 19/28] " John Kacur
2009-10-10 15:36 ` [patch 20/28] input: Remove BKL from hp_sdc_rtc Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-11 19:47 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-10-11 19:54 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-14 15:49 ` [tip:bkl/drivers] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-10 15:37 ` [patch 21/28] bkl: pushdown BKL locking to do_sysctl() Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-11 9:03 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-14 15:45 ` [tip:bkl/core] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-10 15:37 ` [patch 22/28] macintosh: Remove BKL from ans-lcd Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-10 21:14 ` John Kacur
2009-10-10 23:13 ` Alan Cox
2009-10-10 23:27 ` John Kacur
2009-10-11 9:02 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-14 15:49 ` [tip:bkl/drivers] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-21 21:07 ` [PATCH] macintosh: Explicitly set llseek to no_llseek in ans-lcd John Kacur
2009-10-21 21:21 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-10-21 21:33 ` John Kacur
2009-10-21 21:45 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-10-21 21:53 ` John Kacur [this message]
2009-10-21 22:16 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-02 15:51 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-11-16 10:54 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-11-16 12:09 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-10-10 15:37 ` [patch 23/28] i2c: Remove big kernel lock from i2cdev_open Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-10 17:04 ` Jean Delvare
2009-10-10 17:09 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-10 17:39 ` Jean Delvare
2009-10-10 18:10 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-10 18:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-10-10 18:38 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-10 15:37 ` [patch 24/28] rtc: Remove BKL from efirtc Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-14 15:50 ` [tip:bkl/drivers] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-21 21:13 ` Subject: [PATCH] rtc: Explicitly set llseek to no_llseek John Kacur
2009-11-03 23:48 ` Andrew Morton
2009-11-04 0:43 ` John Kacur
2009-10-10 15:37 ` [patch 25/28] parisc: Remove BKL from eisa_eeprom Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-14 15:50 ` [tip:bkl/drivers] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-14 17:35 ` [patch 25/28] " Kyle McMartin
2009-10-10 15:37 ` [patch 26/28] drivers: Remove BKL from pc8736x_gpio Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-14 15:50 ` [tip:bkl/drivers] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-10 15:37 ` [patch 27/28] drivers: Remove BKL from scx200_gpio Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-14 15:50 ` [tip:bkl/drivers] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-10 15:37 ` [patch 28/28] mips: Remove BKL from tb0219 Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-14 15:51 ` [tip:bkl/drivers] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-10 18:38 ` [patch 00/28] BKL removal queued patches John Kacur
2009-10-14 15:59 ` [PATCH 1/2] compat_ioctl: remove VT specific ioctl handlers Arnd Bergmann
2009-10-14 16:00 ` [PATCH 2/2] compat_ioctl: do not hold BKL in handlers Arnd Bergmann
2009-10-14 16:10 ` [PATCH 1/2] compat_ioctl: remove VT specific ioctl handlers Greg KH
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