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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	x86@kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	jesse.brandeburg@intel.com,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Prevent nested interrupts when the IRQ stack is near overflowing v2
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 12:16:17 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1003251211350.3147@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100325105033.35bceffd@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>

On Thu, 25 Mar 2010, Alan Cox wrote:

> > Which leads to the general question why we have that IRQF_DISABLED
> > shite at all. AFAICT the historical reason were IDE drivers, but we
> > grew other abusers like USB, SCSI and other crap which runs hard irq
> > handlers for hundreds of micro seconds in the worst case.
> 
> Anyone you've forgotten to offend ?

Hmm, not sure. Have not measured IRQ handler run times for quite a
while :)

> Pretty much the only 'core' driver today which enables IRQs in the irq
> handlers and needs it is the old IDE layer. There are also a couple of
> drivers which play games with disable/enable_irq in the IRQ paths for
> other reasons (lack of irq threads when written and a hardware model thats
> totally SMP unfriendly). 8390 is the obvious one here and it at least
> would be far far saner using threaded IRQs and normal locking with IRQs
> unmasked.

Right, but that's not the problem here. We talk about a (hopefully)
well written interrupt handler which runs for a very short
time. What's the point of running it with interrupts enabled ?
Nothing, we just run into stack overflow problems. So what's better:
an unreliable and ugly hackaround or just avoiding the possible stack
overflow in the first place ?

Thanks,

	tglx



  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-25 11:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-24 19:02 Andi Kleen
2010-03-24 20:42 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-03-24 23:08   ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-03-25  0:36     ` Andi Kleen
2010-03-25  1:46       ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-03-25  9:37         ` Andi Kleen
2010-03-25 11:09           ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-03-25 12:11             ` Andi Kleen
2010-03-25 13:17               ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-03-25 13:32                 ` Andi Kleen
2010-03-25 14:16                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-03-25 15:38                     ` Andi Kleen
2010-03-25 16:06                     ` Alan Cox
2010-03-25 16:13             ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-25 16:17               ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-25 16:27               ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-25 16:33                 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-25 18:27                 ` Andi Kleen
2010-03-26  4:55                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-03-25 16:52               ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-03-25 17:47               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-03-25 18:01                 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-25 18:21                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-03-25 18:23                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-03-25 18:44                       ` Andi Kleen
2010-03-25 19:01                       ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-25 18:29                   ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-25 19:10                     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-25 19:42                       ` David Miller
2010-03-25 20:40                         ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-26  3:33                           ` David Miller
2010-03-25 20:51                         ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-25 20:53                       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-26  6:10                   ` Andi Kleen
2010-03-25 10:50         ` Alan Cox
2010-03-25 11:16           ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2010-03-25 11:59             ` Alan Cox
2010-03-25 12:00             ` Andi Kleen
2010-03-25 11:57           ` Andi Kleen

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