From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: San Mehat <san@google.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Brian Swetland <swetland@google.com>,
Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>, Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] proc: pagemap: Hold mmap_sem during page walk
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 10:54:45 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1003311036200.3707@i5.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1270056227-5442-1-git-send-email-san@google.com>
On Wed, 31 Mar 2010, San Mehat wrote:
>
> If the mmap_sem is not held while we walk_page_range(), then
> it is possible for find_vma() to race with a remove_vma_list()
> caused by do_munmap() (or others).
I think you've found a bug, but I also look at that code and say "that's
just totally insane".
Why does it do that initial "get_user_pages()" at all? It never _uses_
that 'pages' array except to mark the pages dirty, but that's insane,
since as far as I can see the way it actually dirties the pages in
question is by doing a regular "put_user(pfn, pm->out);". And that will
dirty the pages in hardware (or put_user).
Also, I get the feeling that the _reason_ it is not doing that down_read()
is that it would dead-lock the whole system, exactly on that "put_user()",
if somebody else did a down_write() in another thread. In that case you
have:
thread#1 thread#2
-------- --------
down_read()
...
down_write() - blocks
...
put_user();
.. page fault ..
down_read(); **DEADLOCK **
because our down_read() tries to be fair to the down_write().
So I think your patch would just create _different_ trouble.
I get the _feeling_ that the whole point of that 'pages' array was to not
do that put_user() at all, but write to the physical pages through that
array. But the code looks totally buggy.
I would seriously suggest that we consider removing the 'pagemap'
interface. The way that code looks, it's just broken.
Matt - give me a reason (which includes either a patch to fix this sh*t up
or telling me why I'm wrong, but _also_ includes a real independent reason
to keep that thing around regardless) to not remove it all.
The whole notion seems to be utterly misdesigned.
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-03-31 17:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-03-31 17:23 San Mehat
2010-03-31 17:54 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2010-03-31 21:40 ` Matt Mackall
2010-04-01 1:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-04-01 2:10 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-01 3:20 ` Matt Mackall
2010-04-01 4:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-04-01 5:54 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-01 5:55 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-01 6:05 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-01 6:09 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-01 6:34 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-01 7:09 ` Matt Mackall
2010-04-01 7:21 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-01 15:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-04-02 0:11 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-02 14:30 ` Matt Mackall
2010-04-06 6:48 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
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