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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Jason Wessel <jason.wessel@windriver.com>
Cc: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	kgdb-bugreport@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-arm@vger.kernel.org,
	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/5] kgdb: Use atomic operators which use barriers
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 12:46:14 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1004021244140.3634@i5.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1004021238270.3634@i5.linux-foundation.org>



On Fri, 2 Apr 2010, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> All that matters is that the above kind of while loop must work. The 
> architecture needs to do whatever it needs to do to make it work. End of 
> discussion. If on ARM6 that means "smp_mb()", then that's an ARM6 
> implementation issue.

Put another way: from a kernel standpoint, cpu_relax() in _no_ way implies 
a memory barrier. That has always been true, and that continues to be 
true.

But Linux does expect that if some other CPU modifies a memory location, 
then we _will_ see that modification eventually. If the CPU needs help to 
do so, then cpu_relax() needs to do that. Again - this has nothing to do 
with memory barriers. It's just a basic requirement.

				Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-02 19:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-02 18:32 [GIT PULL] kgdb fixes for 2.6.34-rc3 Jason Wessel
2010-04-02 18:32 ` [PATCH 1/5] kgdb: have ebin2mem call probe_kernel_write once Jason Wessel
2010-04-02 18:32   ` [PATCH 2/5] kgdbts,sh: Add in breakpoint pc offset for superh Jason Wessel
2010-04-02 18:32     ` [PATCH 3/5] kgdb: eliminate kgdb_wait(), all cpus enter the same way Jason Wessel
2010-04-02 18:32       ` [PATCH 4/5] kgdb: Use atomic operators which use barriers Jason Wessel
2010-04-02 18:32         ` [PATCH 5/5] kgdb: Turn off tracing while in the debugger Jason Wessel
2010-04-02 19:12         ` [PATCH 4/5] kgdb: Use atomic operators which use barriers Linus Torvalds
2010-04-02 19:37           ` Jason Wessel
2010-04-02 19:43             ` Linus Torvalds
2010-04-02 19:46               ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2010-04-02 20:07                 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-04-02 22:25               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-04-02 23:24                 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-04-03 16:08                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-04-05  9:21               ` Pavel Machek
2010-04-05 14:56                 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-04-02 19:47             ` [Kgdb-bugreport] [PATCH 4/5] kgdb: Use atomic operators whichuse barriers Jason Wessel
2010-04-02 19:47               ` Linus Torvalds
2010-04-02 20:00                 ` Jason Wessel
2010-04-08 16:27                   ` Dmitry Adamushko
2010-04-19 15:21               ` Will Deacon
     [not found]           ` <000501cad70a$26ca7e10$745f7a30$@deacon@arm.com>
2010-04-08 14:55             ` [PATCH 4/5] kgdb: Use atomic operators which use barriers Linus Torvalds

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