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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: "Nikita V. Youshchenko" <yoush@cs.msu.su>
Cc: Sujit K M <sjt.kar@gmail.com>,
	linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: PREEMPT_RT (2.6.33-rt17) disabled printk-to-console after console_init
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 13:23:07 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1005201317490.3368@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201005201512.40304@zigzag.lvk.cs.msu.su>

On Thu, 20 May 2010, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote:

> > > Still questions:
> > >
> > > 1) why does that prevent klogd from working?
> >
> > Patch below.
> > ...
> > @@ -1084,18 +1084,8 @@ void release_console_mutex(void)
> >  #endif
> >  	}
> >  	console_locked = 0;
> > -	raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore(&logbuf_lock, flags);
> >  	mutex_unlock(&console_mutex);
> 
> Hmm... that lock is taken inside loop body, then control goes out of loop 
> at 'break' statement, and then, if this line is deteled, lock is still 
> held at function return. Looks wrong.

Stupid me. Yes. Drop that line.
 
> > > 3) I believe that 8250 serial driver is aware of preempt-rt.
> > > Could you please comment on my "2.6.33.2-rt13: RFC: fix serial
> > > console" post to linux-rt-users list
> > > (http://eeek.borgchat.net/lists/linux-rt-users/msg05569.html)
> >
> > While that can work due to the trylock, it can introduce massive
> > latencies just in case some driver reports a status change or what
> > ever.
> 
> Isn't it better just manually disable console (with 'quiet' kernel command 
> line option) when running in production? This may be recommended in proper 
> guidelines.

No, anything which needs extra parameters for normal operation is
wrong as it affects users. 

Adding a "I'm debugging, I don't care" flag for developers is the
right thing to do.

Thanks,

	tglx


  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-20 11:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-18 13:13 Xianghua Xiao
2010-05-18 19:28 ` Xianghua Xiao
2010-05-18 19:47   ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-05-18 20:49     ` Xianghua Xiao
2010-05-20  8:33     ` Nikita V. Youshchenko
2010-05-20  9:25       ` Sujit K M
2010-05-20  9:32         ` Sujit K M
2010-05-20  9:47           ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-05-20 10:23             ` Nikita V. Youshchenko
2010-05-20 10:52               ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-05-20 11:12                 ` Nikita V. Youshchenko
2010-05-20 11:23                   ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2010-05-20 11:40                     ` Nikita V. Youshchenko

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