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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Daniel Walker <dwalker@codeaurora.org>
Cc: Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Kevin Hilman <khilman@deeprootsystems.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: ARM defconfig files
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 13:05:22 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1006031258350.8175@i5.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1275593742.23384.48.camel@c-dwalke-linux.qualcomm.com>



On Thu, 3 Jun 2010, Daniel Walker wrote:
> 
> If you did this for drivers, what about disabling a driver? If we used
> "select" wouldn't that force all the drivers on without allowing it to
> be unselected?

Isn't that the point? If you have a specific platform, you don't want to 
pick them, you want to get the particular config file for it as a starting 
point. That's the _only_ reason to have those insane 177 defconfig files - 
because you want a _particular_ one.

Once you have a particular one, you can always edit it with the regular 
configuration tools - including making tweaks by hand - as much as you 
want.

So the only point of the thing would always be to get a result config 
file, one that you can then edit to your hearts content. And get it from a 
human-readable and writable description file, so that it would make sense 
to check it in to the kernel repository.

Because right now, the current defconfig files DO NOT MAKE SENSE in the 
kernel repository. They are useless crud, and they hurt.

So what I do _not_ want is the current crazy "give people these totally 
unreadable and unwritable raw config files". I want that extra step in 
between: something that allows you to _generate_ those idiotic files, but 
generate them from a reasonable human-editable template.

And a Kconfig.xyz file _could_ be such a template. 

But anyway, I'm not actually all that excited about playing games with 
Kconfig files either. And I simply don't care. To me, a "git rm 
*defconfig" is perfectly acceptable. If you want to keep the current 
defconfig files, you can keep them on some random ARM site ("Here's a 
defconfig file for Nexus One").

So I'm actually perfectly fine with "no defconfig files at all, not even a 
template that can generate them". You can get the files from somewhere 
else where they don't hurt the kernel.

			Linus

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-06-03 20:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20100603074548.GA12104@flint.arm.linux.org.uk>
2010-06-03 14:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-03 16:46   ` Tony Lindgren
2010-06-03 18:13     ` Russell King
2010-06-03 21:33       ` Tony Lindgren
2010-06-03 22:45         ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-04  4:59           ` Tony Lindgren
2010-06-04  0:23       ` Kevin Hilman
2010-06-04  4:53         ` Tony Lindgren
2010-06-04  1:02       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-04  5:29         ` Tony Lindgren
2010-06-04  6:30         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2010-06-04  6:53           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2010-06-04  8:52           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-03 16:53   ` Daniel Walker
2010-06-08 15:30     ` Catalin Marinas
2010-06-08 16:37       ` Daniel Walker
2010-06-03 18:10   ` Russell King
2010-06-03 18:18     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-03 18:53       ` Russell King
2010-06-03 18:56         ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-03 19:20           ` Russell King
2010-06-03 19:35           ` Daniel Walker
2010-06-03 19:45             ` Russell King
2010-06-03 19:49               ` Daniel Walker
2010-06-03 19:57                 ` Russell King
2010-06-03 20:06                   ` Daniel Walker
2010-06-03 20:18                     ` Russell King
2010-06-03 20:20                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-04  1:06                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-03 20:09               ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-03 20:31                 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-03 21:17                   ` Tony Lindgren
2010-06-03 22:15                     ` Grant Likely
2010-06-04  5:18                       ` Felipe Balbi
2010-06-04 11:31                       ` Catalin Marinas
2010-06-03 22:24                     ` Daniel Walker
2010-06-05 14:12                     ` Felipe Contreras
2010-06-05 14:39                       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-05 16:39                         ` Felipe Contreras
2010-06-03 21:48                   ` Daniel Walker
2010-06-04  0:36                   ` Paul Mackerras
2010-06-04 12:39                     ` Grant Likely
2010-06-05 13:47                   ` Felipe Contreras
2010-06-03 20:34                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-03 20:05             ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2010-06-06  3:28         ` david
2010-06-03 18:20     ` Daniel Walker
2010-06-03 18:21       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-03 18:30         ` Al Viro
2010-06-03 19:26         ` Paul Mundt
2010-06-14  8:32         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-06-30 10:40           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-07-12 15:55             ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-07-12 16:51               ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-12 17:32                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-12 17:40                   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-12 18:50                     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-07-12 19:04                       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-12 19:17                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-07-12 19:34                           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-12 19:50                             ` Grant Likely
2010-07-13  7:07                               ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-07-13  8:07                                 ` optimized script [Was: ARM defconfig files] Uwe Kleine-König
2010-07-13 18:04                                   ` Olof Johansson
2010-07-13 23:39                                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-07-13 18:32                                 ` ARM defconfig files Grant Likely
2010-07-12 19:59                             ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-07-12 20:14                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-07-12 19:09                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-07-12 20:31                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-07-12 20:50                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-07-12 23:05                       ` David Brown
2010-07-12 23:18                         ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-12 23:34                           ` David Brown
2010-07-13  0:55                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-07-14  9:13                             ` Felipe Contreras
2010-07-14 13:20                             ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-07-14 17:37                               ` Tony Luck
2010-07-13 18:32                           ` Rob Landley
2010-07-12 20:06                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-12 20:29                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-07-12 21:54                         ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-14  9:21                       ` Felipe Contreras
2010-06-03 18:41       ` Russell King
2010-06-03 18:53         ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-06  3:53         ` david

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