From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756757Ab0JSRSk (ORCPT ); Tue, 19 Oct 2010 13:18:40 -0400 Received: from relais.videotron.ca ([24.201.245.36]:48386 "EHLO relais.videotron.ca" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754172Ab0JSRSj (ORCPT ); Tue, 19 Oct 2010 13:18:39 -0400 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 13:18:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre X-X-Sender: nico@xanadu.home To: Daniel Walker Cc: Arnd Bergmann , Joe Perches , Russell King , Stephen Rothwell , linux-next@vger.kernel.org, lkml , Jeremy Kerr , Jeff Ohlstein Subject: Re: linux-next: manual merge of the msm tree with the arm tree In-reply-to: <1287507806.10071.16.camel@c-dwalke-linux.qualcomm.com> Message-id: References: <20101018103540.7bd9c535.sfr@canb.auug.org.au> <1287442418.5376.38.camel@Joe-Laptop> <201010191518.04147.arnd@arndb.de> <1287507806.10071.16.camel@c-dwalke-linux.qualcomm.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (LFD 1167 2008-08-23) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, 19 Oct 2010, Daniel Walker wrote: > On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 15:18 +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > > On Tuesday 19 October 2010, Joe Perches wrote: > > > This could have been done: > > > > > > $ git show 08a610d9ef5394525b0328da0162d7b58c982cc4 | ./scripts/get_maintainer.pl --nogit | wc -l > > > 35 > > > > > > Even then, using 35 CCs is generally silly. > > > > > > It might make some sense for a cover letter and a > > > patch series where the series made tree-wide changes > > > in multiple directories. > > > > Probably not even then: When a single mail header gets too long, you usually land > > in some spam filter and get hate mail from the list owners. The lkml limit is 1024 > > characters (this may come from an official RFC, don't know), which is usually less > > than 35 recipients. > > Patches just shouldn't be this large. You want smaller patches for a lot > of reason. Take the BKL, would it have been acceptable to make all the > BKL changes in a single patch (and what would the CC have looked like)? > If you do anything remotely sophisticated then , from my perspective, a > tree wide patch just isn't going to work. That's why on occasions we do transgress the established process to accommodate such changes. Imagine just for a moment the patch that modified the interrupt callback prototype to remove the useless pt_regs argument. Obviously, it had to be done atomically to the _whole_ tree, and it was agreed that this patch was to be applied at the end of the merge window. But no one expected a single minute sending a CC to _all_ the driver authors. Nicolas