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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>
Cc: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] x86: Add safe_udelay() and safe_msleep()
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 00:31:36 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1101140014590.2678@localhost6.localdomain6> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D2F84FC.7000804@kernel.org>

On Thu, 13 Jan 2011, Yinghai Lu wrote:

> > 
> > What the hell is the root problem ?
> 
> for patch
> 
> x86: usb handoff in early_quirk
> 
> some systems keep getting
>   APIC calibration not consistent with PM-Timer: 139ms instead of 100ms
>   APIC delta adjusted to PM-Timer: 831249 (1163736)
> 
> USB legacy SMI handler is not disabled at that time.
> 
> According to Thomas:
> | http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0703.2/0420.html
> | 
> | The wrong calibration values are probably caused by SMM code trying to
> | emulate a PS/2 keyboard from a (maybe connected or not) USB keyboard.
> | This prohibits the accurate delivery of PIT interrupts, which are used
> | to calibrate the local APIC timer. Unfortunately we have no way to
> | disable this BIOS misfeature in the early boot process.
> 
> Try to disable USB legacy support early with this patch.
> So later APIC Timer calibration don't get messed up by USB legacy support SMI handler.
> After this patch, that warning never show up for 100 reboot tests.
> 
> reuse code from drivers/usb/host/pci-quirks.c
> 
> 
> but pci-quirks.c is using udelay and msleep ...
> 
> And BenH does't want 
> 1. if (early)...
> 2. include .c
> 3. new API new about safe_udelay/safe_msleep...
> 
> just want to keep the old udelay/mdelay.

NAK. That's the total wrong thing to do.

Do we have any indication that we miscalibrate? If no, then were is
the point of this ? If yes, then I it's way easier to fix that than
doing all this ugly churn.

We deal with that SMI crap in the TSC calibration as well and I'd
rather see a combined TSC/APIC calibration than all this fugliness.

Thanks,

	tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2011-01-13 23:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-09 19:58 [PATCH 0/3] x86, usb, pci: Disable usb legacy support early Yinghai Lu
2011-01-10  8:43 ` [PATCH -v2 0/4] " Yinghai Lu
2011-01-11  0:49   ` [PATCH -v3 " Yinghai Lu
2011-01-11  0:55     ` [PATCH -v3 1/4] pci, usb: Make usb handoff func all take base remapping Yinghai Lu
2011-01-11  1:07       ` Greg KH
2011-01-11  1:20         ` Yinghai Lu
2011-01-11  3:37           ` Greg KH
2011-01-11  5:21           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-01-11  6:34             ` Yinghai Lu
2011-01-11  7:37               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-01-11  9:21                 ` Yinghai Lu
2011-01-11 13:56                   ` Greg KH
2011-01-11 17:39                     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2011-01-12  1:06                     ` [RFC PATCH] x86: Add safe_udelay() and safe_msleep() Yinghai Lu
2011-01-12  2:32                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-01-12  5:07                         ` Greg KH
2011-01-13 22:21                         ` Yinghai Lu
2011-01-13 22:44                           ` Greg KH
2011-01-13 22:52                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-01-13 23:02                               ` Greg KH
2011-01-13 23:04                               ` Yinghai Lu
2011-01-13 23:31                                 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2011-01-14 22:42                                   ` Yinghai Lu
2011-01-13 23:48                                 ` Greg KH
2011-01-14  0:31                                   ` Yinghai Lu
2011-01-14  0:40                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-01-14  1:00                                       ` Yinghai Lu
2011-01-14 14:46                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2011-01-14  0:44                                     ` Greg KH
2011-01-14  1:12                                       ` Yinghai Lu
2011-01-14 14:50                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2011-01-14 21:22                                           ` [PATCH] x86: set percpu cpu0 lpj to default Yinghai Lu
2011-01-14 21:28                                             ` Christoph Lameter
2011-01-15 13:09                                               ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-16  2:32                                                 ` Yinghai Lu
2011-01-14 22:16                                             ` Greg KH
2011-01-14 22:29                                               ` Yinghai Lu
2011-01-11  5:18       ` [PATCH -v3 1/4] pci, usb: Make usb handoff func all take base remapping Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-01-11  0:55     ` [PATCH 2/4] x86: early_quirk check all dev/func in domain 0 Yinghai Lu
2011-01-11  1:09       ` Greg KH
2011-01-11  1:46         ` Yinghai Lu
2011-01-11  3:38           ` Greg KH
2011-01-11  3:39           ` Greg KH
2011-01-11  0:55     ` [PATCH 3/4] x86, pci: add dummy pci device for early stage Yinghai Lu
2011-01-11  0:55     ` [PATCH -v3 4/4] x86: usb handoff in early_quirk Yinghai Lu
2011-01-11  1:08       ` Greg KH
2011-01-11  1:41         ` Yinghai Lu
2011-01-11  1:07     ` [PATCH -v3 0/4] x86, usb, pci: Disable usb legacy support early Greg KH
2011-01-11  1:25       ` Yinghai Lu
2011-01-11  3:35         ` Greg KH
     [not found] ` <4D2AC584.6010004@kernel.org>
2011-01-10  8:43   ` [PATCH -v2 1/4] pci, usb: Seperate usb handoff func to another file Yinghai Lu
2011-01-10  8:44   ` [PATCH 2/4] x86: early_quirk check all dev/func in domain 0 Yinghai Lu
2011-01-10  8:44   ` [PATCH 3/4] x86, pci: add dummy pci device for early stage Yinghai Lu
2011-01-10  8:44   ` [PATCH v2 4/4] x86: usb handoff in early_quirk Yinghai Lu
2011-01-10 15:57 ` [PATCH 0/3] x86, usb, pci: Disable usb legacy support early Greg KH
2011-01-10 18:27   ` Jesse Barnes
2011-01-10 20:10     ` Yinghai Lu

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