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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Alexander Shishkin <virtuoso@slind.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ken MacLeod <ken@bitsko.slc.ut.us>,
	Shaun Reich <predator106@gmail.com>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@suse.de>,
	Feng Tang <feng.tang@intel.com>, Michael Tokarev <mjt@tls.msk.ru>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	John Stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
	Chris Friesen <chris.friesen@genband.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com>,
	Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFCv4] timerfd: add TFD_NOTIFY_CLOCK_SET to watch for clock changes
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 10:08:18 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1103101004540.2787@localhost6.localdomain6> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinZioShsr3O0Z=xaEQ-S=JBCgs_SS_LdsBnNhZ2@mail.gmail.com>

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On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, Kay Sievers wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 01:25, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> > On Wed,  9 Mar 2011 16:36:51 +0200
> > Alexander Shishkin <virtuoso@slind.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Changes since v3:
> >>  - changed timerfd_settime() semantics (see below)
> >> Changes since v2:
> >>  - replaced sysfs interface with a syscall
> >>  - added sysctl/procfs handle to set a limit to the number of users
> >>  - fixed issues pointed out by Greg.
> >> Changes since v1:
> >>  - updated against 2.6.36-rc1,
> >>  - added notification/filtering options,
> >>  - added Documentation/ABI/sysfs-kernel-time-notify interface description.
> 
> > It would be helpful to know if the identified users of this feature
> > actually find it useful and adequate.  I guess the most common
> > application is the 1,001 desktop clock widgets.  Do you have any
> > feedback from any of the owners of those?
> 
> We want it for systemd, to provide cron-like functionality but without
> the need to stupidly wake up every minute and check the system time
> for possible jumps.
> 
> It also sounds useful for a generic resume (after system suspend)
> notification for applications, which isn't really possible today.

Note, that we have CLOCK_BOOTTIME pending for .39 which aims at the
same problem. It's basically CLOCK_MONOTONIC adjusted by the time we
were in suspend. So while CLOCK_MONOTONIC timers are not aware of the
time spent in suspend CLOCK_BOOTTIME timers are. The reason for
implementing CLOCK_BOOTTIME was basically the same problem.

Thanks,

	tglx

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-03-10  9:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-09 14:36 Alexander Shishkin
2011-03-10  0:25 ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-10  0:36   ` Kay Sievers
2011-03-10  8:19     ` Alexander Shishkin
2011-03-10  9:08     ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2011-03-10 11:16       ` Jamie Lokier
2011-03-10 11:41         ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-03-10  2:01   ` Scott James Remnant
2011-03-10  8:25     ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-11 19:51       ` Scott James Remnant
2011-03-11 19:56         ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-03-15  1:53           ` Scott James Remnant
2011-03-10  8:10   ` Alexander Shishkin
2011-03-10  8:02 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2011-03-10  8:15   ` Alexander Shishkin
2011-03-10  8:48 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-10 14:19   ` Alexander Shishkin
2011-03-10  9:52 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-03-10 14:12   ` Alexander Shishkin
2011-03-10 14:55     ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-03-10 15:43       ` Alexander Shishkin
2011-03-10 16:40         ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-03-10 21:57     ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-27 10:43       ` [RFC][PATCH 1/4] clock_rtoffset: new syscall Alexander Shishkin
2011-04-27 10:43         ` [RFC][PATCH 2/4] hrtimer: add cancellation when clock is set Alexander Shishkin
2011-04-27 10:43         ` [RFC][PATCH 3/4] hrtimer: add nanosleep cancellation Alexander Shishkin
2011-04-27 10:43         ` [RFC][PATCH 4/4] timerfd: add cancellation Alexander Shishkin
2011-04-27 14:02         ` [RFC][PATCH 1/4] clock_rtoffset: new syscall Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-27 19:11           ` john stultz
2011-04-27 22:19             ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-27 20:55           ` Kay Sievers
2011-04-29 17:32             ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-05-02  8:10               ` Alexander Shishkin
2011-04-28  7:15           ` Alexander Shishkin

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