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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: David Newall <davidn@davidnewall.com>
Cc: Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@googlemail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] Performance Counters for Linux
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:49:25 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.01.0906111247270.3535@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A315C9F.8050908@davidnewall.com>



On Fri, 12 Jun 2009, David Newall wrote:

> Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > To take the oprofile example that decided it for me: the code to actually 
> > support new processors was all done by basically kernel developers. And it 
> > didn't hit user land for almost a year, because the user-land tools didn't 
> > take the patch and propagate it up.
> 
> Bad developer, Spot, you only did half the job. Not sure there's much
> more one can say.

Umm. The kernel developer _did_ do the job. The patch to the user land 
side was available for that whole year. It just didn't get merged, and 
then didn't get merged some more, and then got merged but only in a SVN 
tree, not a release, and then finally when I did a bugzilla request to 
fedora, they took the patch and put it in their distro.

Anyway, it's clearly not worth discussing this with you. I've tried. I 
give up. Happily, I don't _need_ to convince you.

		Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-11 19:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-11 16:03 Ingo Molnar
2009-06-11 16:17 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-06-11 16:26   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-11 16:34     ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-11 16:38       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-11 16:46         ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-06-11 16:54           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-11 16:47         ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-11 18:04         ` David Newall
2009-06-11 16:52     ` Al Viro
2009-06-11 16:56       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-06-11 17:00         ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-06-11 17:05           ` Ray Lee
2009-06-11 17:08             ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-11 17:12             ` Al Viro
2009-06-11 17:22               ` Ray Lee
2009-06-11 17:06           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-11 17:59             ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-11 18:10               ` David Newall
2009-06-11 18:21                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-11 18:38                   ` David Newall
2009-06-11 18:44                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-11 19:07                       ` David Newall
2009-06-11 19:23                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-11 19:29                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-11 19:35                             ` David Newall
2009-06-11 19:49                               ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2009-06-12  1:43                                 ` Robert Richter
2009-06-12  3:21                                 ` David Newall
2009-06-11 19:37                           ` David Newall
2009-06-11 18:51                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-06-11 19:05                   ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-11 18:24             ` Martin Bligh
2009-06-11 18:34               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-11 20:23                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-11 20:49                   ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-11 21:08                     ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-06-11 21:17                       ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-11 21:26                         ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-06-11 22:18                           ` Jiri Slaby
2009-06-11 22:27                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-11 22:38                               ` Alan Cox
2009-06-11 22:49                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-12  7:35                                   ` Alan Cox
2009-06-11 23:19                               ` Al Viro
2009-06-11 23:25                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-12  0:26                                   ` Al Viro
2009-06-12  2:58                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-12  4:05                                       ` Al Viro
2009-06-11 21:59                         ` Steven Rostedt
2009-06-12 10:19                           ` Jörn Engel
2009-06-11 21:14                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-28  1:19                   ` Felipe Contreras
2009-06-11 19:58             ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-11 20:09               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-12  4:07             ` Kyle McMartin
2009-06-11 16:58       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-11 18:50     ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-06-15 13:41       ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2009-06-15 15:18         ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-06-12  9:56 ` stephane eranian
2009-06-12 10:28   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-18 21:58     ` stephane eranian
2009-06-22 13:10       ` Performance analysis under Linux (was: Re: [GIT PULL] Performance Counters for Linux) Ingo Molnar

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