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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>,
	Sukadev Bhattiprolu <sukadev@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Nathan Lynch <nathanl@austin.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	mingo@elte.hu, Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com
Subject: Re: [RFC][v7][PATCH 8/9]: Define clone2() syscall
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:11:03 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.01.0909291501530.6996@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4AC267C7.4070300@zytor.com>



On Tue, 29 Sep 2009, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> 
> That's not the main issue here, though.  The main issue is that the
> prototype of the function now depends on one of its arguments

Ok, I agree with that. The kernel side is easy (we have magic calling 
conventions there and need to turn registers into arguments anyway before 
you get to the shared code), but your point about the user side prototype 
is valid.

However, that could easily be handled by just having a extended_clone() 
prototype that then sets the CLONE_EXTINFO (or whatever) bit in the flags. 
I think most of the time the clone() stuff needs special user-level 
wrappers anyway to handle the stack setup etc, no?

In other words, what I'd suggest we could do is

 - the kernel "do_fork()" interface would be made to have the "extended" 
   format by default - so the _kernel_ never has two formats in its 
   generic logic.

 - the "sys_clone()" system call, that already needs to munge the user 
   mode registers into the "do_fork()" format, would be the one that 
   recognizes the new flag and copies the extended data from user mode 
   memory to the extended info mode.

Then each architecture would need to update it's "sys_clone()" function to 
take advantage of the new extended format, but that's something that the 
new system call would have had to do anyway, so that's not an added burden 
in any way.

Hmm?

I don't feel horribly strongly about this, and as far as I'm concerned 
it's fine to also do it as a new system call too (we already have 'fork()' 
and 'vfork()' as special case interfaces to do_fork() - the new 'extended 
clone' would be no different).

I just think that Roland is correct that if the new extended fork handles 
the "no new info" case itself _anyway_, then there is no upside to making 
it a new system call, since the complexity is the same as just extending 
the old one.

			Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-29 22:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-24 16:55 [RFC][v7][PATCH 0/9] Implement clone2() system call Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-09-24 17:00 ` [RFC][v7][PATCH 1/9]: Factor out code to allocate pidmap page Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-09-24 17:00 ` [RFC][v7][PATCH 2/9]: Have alloc_pidmap() return actual error code Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-09-24 17:01 ` [RFC][v7][PATCH 3/9] Make pid_max a pid_ns property Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-09-24 17:45   ` Oren Laadan
2009-09-24 17:01 ` [RFC][v7][PATCH 4/9]: Add target_pid parameter to alloc_pidmap() Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-09-24 17:47   ` Oren Laadan
2009-09-24 17:01 ` [RFC][v7][PATCH 5/9]: Add target_pids parameter to alloc_pid() Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-09-24 17:02 ` [RFC][v7][PATCH 6/9]: Add target_pids parameter to copy_process() Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-09-24 17:02 ` [RFC][v7][PATCH 7/9]: Define do_fork_with_pids() Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-09-24 17:03 ` [RFC][v7][PATCH 8/9]: Define clone2() syscall Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-09-24 21:43   ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-09-25  8:23     ` Louis Rilling
2009-09-25 10:56       ` Louis Rilling
2009-09-29 18:05         ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-09-29 18:40           ` Roland McGrath
2009-09-29 18:44             ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-09-29 19:02               ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-29 19:10                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-29 20:02                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-09-29 22:11                     ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2009-09-29 22:19                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-09-30 16:15                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-09-30 16:27                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-30 17:59                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-09-30 19:14                               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-30  6:48                       ` Roland McGrath
2009-09-29 20:00                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-09-29 21:58           ` Oren Laadan
2009-09-24 17:03 ` [RFC][v7][PATCH 9/9]: Document " Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-09-24 18:05   ` Randy Dunlap
2009-09-25  2:31   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-09-24 17:44 ` [RFC][v7][PATCH 0/9] Implement clone2() system call Oren Laadan
2009-09-24 20:15   ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-09-24 22:06     ` Oren Laadan
2009-09-24 22:21       ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-09-24 23:19         ` Oren Laadan
2009-10-01  2:36   ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-10-01 15:19     ` Oren Laadan
2009-09-24 17:57 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-09-24 18:35   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-09-30  5:34     ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-09-30 17:41       ` Oren Laadan
2009-10-02 20:27         ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-10-02 21:06           ` Oren Laadan

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