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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Andrew Lutomirski <luto@mit.edu>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@amd64.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/6] Micro-optimize vclock_gettime
Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 23:53:04 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.02.1105162345110.3078@ionos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2fwoeo0pf.fsf@firstfloor.org>

On Mon, 16 May 2011, Andi Kleen wrote:
> Andrew Lutomirski <luto@mit.edu> writes:
> > Longer term, it would be nice to mark the vsyscall page NX.  That
> > involves a few things:
> 
> Why NX? What would make sense is to call the VDSO from it.
> The problem is that the vDSO is randomized and there's no good memory
> location to store the pointer to it.
> 
> The real reason for all this dance is to have some less non randomized
> code around. What I implemented back then was instead code to patch out
> the SYSCALL in there if not needed to lower the attack surface (not sure
> if that still works though, but that was the idea). For most cases
> (TSC/HPET read) it's not needed.
> 
> Checking: someone removed the code meanwhile.

For a damned good reason.
 
> > And we won't have a
> > syscall instruction sitting at a predictable address.
> 
> The easy way to fix this is to just re-add the patching.

If you can address _all_ reasons why it was removed then we might
revisit that issue, but that's going to be an interesting patch.

Thanks,

	tglx

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-05-16 21:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-16 16:00 Andy Lutomirski
2011-05-16 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 1/6] x86-64: Clean up vdso/kernel shared variables Andy Lutomirski
2011-05-16 17:23   ` Borislav Petkov
2011-05-16 17:34     ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-16 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 2/6] x86-64: Remove unnecessary barrier in vread_tsc Andy Lutomirski
2011-05-16 16:01 ` [PATCH v4 3/6] x86-64: Don't generate cmov " Andy Lutomirski
2011-05-16 16:01 ` [PATCH v4 4/6] x86-64: vclock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC) can't ever see nsec < 0 Andy Lutomirski
2011-05-16 16:01 ` [PATCH v4 5/6] x86-64: Move vread_tsc into a new file with sensible options Andy Lutomirski
2011-05-16 16:01 ` [PATCH v4 6/6] x86-64: Turn off -pg and turn on -foptimize-sibling-calls for vDSO Andy Lutomirski
2011-05-16 16:09 ` [PATCH v4 0/6] Micro-optimize vclock_gettime Andi Kleen
2011-05-16 16:25   ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-05-16 16:49     ` Andi Kleen
2011-05-16 17:05       ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-16 20:22         ` Andi Kleen
2011-05-16 21:28           ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-16 21:53           ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2011-05-16 22:17             ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-16 22:40               ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-05-17  8:00                 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-17 11:11                   ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-17 11:36                     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-17 18:31                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2011-05-17 19:27                         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-17 21:31                         ` Andi Kleen
2011-05-17 22:59                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-05-18  3:18                             ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-18  7:30                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-05-18  8:31                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-18 11:30                                   ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-18 12:10                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-17  7:56       ` Ingo Molnar

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