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From: Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 0/3] kvm tool: Serial emulation overhaul
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 09:03:32 +0200 (EET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.02.1112130859530.2138@tux.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.02.1112130056370.3020@ionos>

* Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org> wrote:
>>> So i'm pretty sure it's some bug in hw/serial.c that's
>>> limiting character output by interrupts.

On Tue, 13 Dec 2011, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> No, that's not a bug. The current emulation has no fifo and it writes
> every single character to the terminal. Go figure. The timer
> limitation is due to the missing fifo and other details, which would
> drive the serial driver into the "too much work for irq 4" case.
>
> The approach I took was to keep the emulated device as close to the
> real HW for obvious reasons. You simply cannot ignore the way how a HW
> device works and how the corresponding kernel driver expects it to
> work.

No disagreement here.

On Mon, 12 Dec 2011, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>> Serial port control flow somehow being bound by timer frequency
>> [which is not really a necessity: both the host and the guest
>> could stream on full speed] was too my observation early on.
>
> That simply does not work with the way the serial driver for the 8250
> is written.
>
> If you emulate hardware then don't expect that the shortcomings of the
> real hardware and the clusterf*ck in the corresponding device drivers
> go magically away.
>
> If you want high performance virtualization then use virtual drivers
> and stop whining about a 30 years old legacy device and its warts.

If you compare Ingo's numbers to mine, there's still some slowdown which 
cannot be explained by legacy device warts.

Btw, I was able to double the speed of serial console with this simple 
patch:

diff --git a/tools/kvm/hw/serial.c b/tools/kvm/hw/serial.c
index c0f6970..1a8eaaa 100644
--- a/tools/kvm/hw/serial.c
+++ b/tools/kvm/hw/serial.c
@@ -232,7 +232,7 @@ static bool serial8250_out(struct ioport *ioport, struct kvm *kvm, u16 port, voi
  				term_putc(CONSOLE_8250, addr, size, dev->id);
  			/* else FIXME: Inject data into rcv path for LOOP */

-			if (++dev->txcnt == 16)
+			if (++dev->txcnt == 32)
  				dev->lsr &= ~(UART_LSR_TEMT | UART_LSR_THRE);
  			break;
  		} else {

I assume '16' here is the 16550A FIFO size? Is there any reason we can't 
cheat and use a deeper FIFO internally?

 			Pekka

  reply	other threads:[~2011-12-13  7:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-10 13:27 Thomas Gleixner
2011-12-10 13:27 ` [patch 1/3] kvm tool: serial: Cleanup coding style Thomas Gleixner
2011-12-10 13:27 ` [patch 3/3] kvm tool: serial: Fix interrupt handling Thomas Gleixner
2011-12-10 13:27 ` [patch 2/3] kvm tool: serial: Simplify switch cases Thomas Gleixner
2011-12-10 15:17 ` [patch 0/3] kvm tool: Serial emulation overhaul Pekka Enberg
2011-12-10 20:51   ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-12-11  8:15     ` Pekka Enberg
2011-12-11 10:30       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-12-11 10:46         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-12-11 14:04         ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-12-11 15:53           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-12-12  5:30             ` Sasha Levin
2011-12-12 11:12               ` Ingo Molnar
2011-12-12 11:20                 ` Alan Cox
2011-12-12 17:20                   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-12-12 18:16                   ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-12 18:16                   ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-12 21:36                     ` Alan Cox
2011-12-13 10:32                       ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-12 11:23                 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-12 17:40                 ` Sasha Levin
2011-12-12 17:45                   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-12-12  9:42             ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-12-12 11:19             ` Pekka Enberg
2011-12-12 17:20               ` Ingo Molnar
2011-12-12 18:40                 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-12-12 19:14                   ` Pekka Enberg
2011-12-12 19:21                   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-12-13  0:59                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-12-13  7:03                       ` Pekka Enberg [this message]
2011-12-13 11:05                         ` Alan Cox
2011-12-13 10:58                       ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-13 13:52                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-12-13 14:23                           ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-13 14:30                             ` Sasha Levin
2011-12-13 14:51                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-12-13 14:58                               ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-12 21:03                   ` James Courtier-Dutton
2011-12-12 18:19               ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-12 18:31                 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-12-13 10:33                   ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-12 10:27           ` Alan Cox
2011-12-12 10:59             ` Sasha Levin
2011-12-12 11:02               ` Alan Cox
2011-12-12 18:21                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-12 17:21               ` Ingo Molnar

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