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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Prarit Bhargava <prarit@redhat.com>
Cc: John Stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Salman Qazi <sqazi@google.com>,
	stable@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] clocksource, prevent overflow in clocksource_cyc2ns
Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 01:29:59 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.02.1204070107370.2542@ionos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F7D8FA1.1010107@redhat.com>

On Thu, 5 Apr 2012, Prarit Bhargava wrote:

> > 
> > So what kernel version are you using?
> 
> I retested using top of the linux.git tree, running
> 
> echo 1 > /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq
> for i in `seq 10000`; do sleep 1000 & done
> echo t > /proc/sysrq-trigger
> 
> and I no longer see a problem.  However, if I increase the number of threads to
> 1000/cpu I get
> 
> Clocksource %s unstable (delta = -429565427)
> Clocksource switching to hpet

You are issuing a command which puts the kernel into a state where is
dumps data for several seconds with interrupts disabled. And you expect that
everything can cope with that?
 
> If I hack in (sorry for the cut-and-paste)
> ....
> +               cs_nsec = mult_frac(((csnow - cs->cs_last), cs->mult,
> +                                   1UL << cs->shift);
> 
> -               cs_nsec = clocksource_cyc2ns((csnow - cs->cs_last) &
> -                                            cs->mask, cs->mult, cs->shift);
> then I don't see unstable messages.

That does not make your approach more correct. The HPET wraparound
time is ~3 seconds, so you screwed everything already, when your dump
lasts longer than that. And there are clocksources which wrap way
faster.

No, you can't fix that by hacking the timer code. A wraparound CANNOT
be fixed by hacks.

So instead of fiddling in the victims, please fix the root cause,
i.e. that stupid sysrq-t code which should not need to have interrupts
disabled just to dump all that state. If that's not possible, send a
patch to the sysrq documentation and warn about the consequences.

But stay away from code which is correct already. You CANNOT fix a
problem which is caused by abnormal system state by hacking the code
which is exposing the problem.

All you do is making hot pathes more expensive with a very dubious
value. The time related calls are hotpath functions and optimized.

Aside of that you are breaking all architectures which do not have a
native 64/32 instruction.

This mult_frac stuff is not going to happen, period.

Thanks,

	tglx

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-04-06 23:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-04 15:11 Prarit Bhargava
2012-04-04 18:00 ` John Stultz
2012-04-04 18:33   ` Prarit Bhargava
2012-04-05  1:08     ` John Stultz
2012-04-05 11:00       ` Prarit Bhargava
2012-04-05 16:23         ` John Stultz
2012-04-05 12:27       ` Prarit Bhargava
2012-04-05 16:45         ` John Stultz
2012-04-06 23:29         ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2012-04-07 13:47           ` Prarit Bhargava
2012-04-18 23:20         ` John Stultz
2012-04-18 23:59           ` Prarit Bhargava
2012-04-19  0:18             ` John Stultz
2012-04-19 11:56               ` Prarit Bhargava
2012-04-19 12:50               ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-19 12:52                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-19 13:06                   ` Prarit Bhargava
2012-04-19 13:18                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-19 18:12                   ` John Stultz
2012-04-25 12:29                     ` Prarit Bhargava
2012-04-19 12:37             ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-19 12:51               ` Thomas Gleixner

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