From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756515Ab2JIRcX (ORCPT ); Tue, 9 Oct 2012 13:32:23 -0400 Received: from www.linutronix.de ([62.245.132.108]:39629 "EHLO Galois.linutronix.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756486Ab2JIRcS (ORCPT ); Tue, 9 Oct 2012 13:32:18 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 19:32:16 +0200 (CEST) From: Thomas Gleixner To: Steven Rostedt cc: LKML , linux-rt-users , Carsten Emde Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] 3.6.1-rt1 In-Reply-To: <1349802833.24256.25.camel@gandalf.local.home> Message-ID: References: <1349795389.24256.20.camel@gandalf.local.home> <1349802833.24256.25.camel@gandalf.local.home> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (LFD 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Linutronix-Spam-Score: -1.0 X-Linutronix-Spam-Level: - X-Linutronix-Spam-Status: No , -1.0 points, 5.0 required, ALL_TRUSTED=-1,SHORTCIRCUIT=-0.0001 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, 9 Oct 2012, Steven Rostedt wrote: > On Tue, 2012-10-09 at 18:19 +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote: > > > > > I've started looking at playing with the NAPI code again, and trying to > > > see if I can add an ENAPI interface (Even Newer API), where the driver > > > uses its own interrupt thread, and instead of having the polling in the > > > network softirq, it can do the polling in its own thread. > > > > It's pretty close to the behaviour I enforced with this change. Let's > > play with that and figure out what influence it has on the network > > throughput performance on RT. That needs probably a different > > scheduling scheme than what Carsten needs for his deterministic > > behaviour. > > > > I was actually looking at the change for mainline, not for -rt ;-) I know, but you can utilize RT for figuring out what kind of performance impact (in whatever direction) this modus operandi has. That gives us a better understanding and hopefully improvements for RT, but at the same time a lot of insight in how we should handle this scenario on a non RT kernel. You might try to make the softirq split lock scheme work in CONFIG_RT_BASE as this gives us a way better comparison to mainline behaviour. Thanks, tglx