From: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@linux-mips.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] x86, fpu: Use eagerfpu by default on all CPUs
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 00:56:50 +0000 (GMT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.11.1502240035310.17311@eddie.linux-mips.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFyK7oSBw1_pjDBwN=Jrcso5HaCsMtinJVH3R-nxvUB3bQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, 23 Feb 2015, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> We have one traditional special case, which actually did something
> like Maciej's nightmare scenario: the completely broken "FPU errors
> over irq13" IBM PC/AT FPU linkage.
>
> But since we don't actually support old i386 machines any more, we
> don't really need to care. The only way you can get into that
> situation is with an external i387. I don't think we need to worry
> about it.
>
> But with the old horrid irq13 error handling, you literally could get
> into a situation that you got an error "exception" (irq) from the
> previous state, *after* you had already switched to the new one. We
> had some code to mitigate the problem, but as mentioned, I don't think
> it's an issue any more.
Correct, the horrid hack is gone, it was so horrible (though I understand
why IBM had to do it with their PC/AT) that back in mid 1990s, some 10
years after the inception of the problem, Intel felt so compelled to make
people get the handling of it right as to release a dedicated application
note: "AP-578 Software and Hardware Considerations for FPU Exception
Handlers for Intel Architecture Processors", Order Number 243291-002.
Anyway, my point through this consideration has been about the
performance benefit from continuing the execution of an x87 instruction in
parallel, perhaps until after a context has been fully switched. Which
benefit is lost if a FSAVE/FXSAVE executed eagerly at the context switch
stalls waiting for the instruction to complete instead.
Maciej
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-02-24 1:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-02-20 18:58 Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-20 19:05 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-02-21 9:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-21 16:38 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-02-21 17:29 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-02-21 18:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-21 19:15 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-02-21 19:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-21 21:36 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-02-22 8:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-22 8:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-22 10:48 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-02-22 12:50 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-02-22 12:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-22 13:21 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-02-22 0:34 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2015-02-22 2:18 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-22 11:06 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-02-23 1:45 ` Rik van Riel
2015-02-23 5:22 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-23 12:51 ` Rik van Riel
2015-02-23 15:03 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-02-23 15:51 ` Rik van Riel
2015-02-23 18:06 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-02-23 21:17 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2015-02-23 21:21 ` Rik van Riel
2015-02-23 22:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-02-24 0:56 ` Maciej W. Rozycki [this message]
2015-02-24 0:59 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-23 22:27 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2015-02-23 23:44 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-24 2:14 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2015-02-24 2:31 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-24 14:43 ` Rik van Riel
2015-02-21 18:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-23 14:59 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-23 15:11 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-02-23 15:53 ` Rik van Riel
2015-02-23 18:40 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-24 19:15 ` Denys Vlasenko
2015-02-25 0:07 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-25 10:37 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-02-25 10:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-25 10:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-25 17:12 ` Some results (was: Re: [RFC PATCH] x86, fpu: Use eagerfpu by default on all CPUs) Borislav Petkov
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