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From: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
To: Kamezawa Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Sha Zhengju <handai.szj@gmail.com>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, gthelen@google.com,
	fengguang.wu@intel.com, glommer@parallels.com,
	dchinner@redhat.com, Sha Zhengju <handai.szj@taobao.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 4/8] memcg: add per cgroup dirty pages accounting
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 21:15:47 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1301082030100.5319@eggly.anvils> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50EA7E07.4070902@jp.fujitsu.com>

On Mon, 7 Jan 2013, Kamezawa Hiroyuki wrote:
> (2013/01/07 5:02), Hugh Dickins wrote:
> > 
> > Forgive me, I must confess I'm no more than skimming this thread,
> > and don't like dumping unsigned-off patches on people; but thought
> > that on balance it might be more helpful than not if I offer you a
> > patch I worked on around 3.6-rc2 (but have updated to 3.8-rc2 below).
> > 
> > I too was getting depressed by the constraints imposed by
> > mem_cgroup_{begin,end}_update_page_stat (good job though Kamezawa-san
> > did to minimize them), and wanted to replace by something freer, more
> > RCU-like.  In the end it seemed more effort than it was worth to go
> > as far as I wanted, but I do think that this is some improvement over
> > what we currently have, and should deal with your recursion issue.
> > 
> In what case does this improve performance ?

Perhaps none.  I was aiming to not degrade performance at the stats
update end, and make it more flexible, so new stats can be updated which
would be problematic today (for lock ordering and recursion reasons).

I've not done any performance measurement on it, and don't have enough
cpus for an interesting report; but if someone thinks it might solve a
problem for them, and has plenty of cpus to test with, please go ahead,
we'd be glad to hear the results.

> Hi, this patch seems interesting but...doesn't this make move_account() very
> slow if the number of cpus increases because of scanning all cpus per a page
> ?
> And this looks like reader-can-block-writer percpu rwlock..it's too heavy to
> writers if there are many readers.

I was happy to make the relatively rare move_account end considerably
heavier.  I'll be disappointed if it turns out to be prohibitively
heavy at that end - if we're going to make move_account impossible,
there are much easier ways to achieve that! - but it is a possibility.

Something you might have missed when considering many readers (stats
updaters): the move_account end does not wait for a moment when there
are no readers, that would indeed be a losing strategy; it just waits
for each cpu that's updating page stats to leave that section, so every
cpu is sure to notice and hold off if it then tries to update the page
which is to be moved.  (I may not be explaining that very well!)

Hugh

  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-09  5:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-25 17:18 [PATCH V3 0/8] Per-cgroup page stat accounting Sha Zhengju
2012-12-25 17:20 ` [PATCH V3 1/8] memcg: remove MEMCG_NR_FILE_MAPPED Sha Zhengju
2012-12-25 17:22 ` [PATCH V3 2/8] Make TestSetPageDirty and dirty page accounting in one func Sha Zhengju
2012-12-28  0:39   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-01-05  2:34     ` Sha Zhengju
2013-01-02  9:08   ` Michal Hocko
2013-01-05  2:49     ` Sha Zhengju
2013-01-05 10:45       ` Michal Hocko
2012-12-25 17:24 ` [PATCH V3 3/8] use vfs __set_page_dirty interface instead of doing it inside filesystem Sha Zhengju
2012-12-28  0:41   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-12-25 17:26 ` [PATCH V3 4/8] memcg: add per cgroup dirty pages accounting Sha Zhengju
2013-01-02 10:44   ` Michal Hocko
2013-01-05  4:48     ` Sha Zhengju
2013-01-06 20:02       ` Hugh Dickins
2013-01-07  7:49         ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-01-09  5:15           ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2013-01-09  7:24             ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-01-09 14:35         ` Sha Zhengju
2013-01-09 14:47           ` Michal Hocko
2013-01-07  7:25       ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-01-09 15:02         ` Sha Zhengju
2013-01-10  2:16           ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-01-10  4:26             ` Sha Zhengju
2013-01-10  5:03               ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-01-10  8:28                 ` Sha Zhengju
2013-05-03  9:11     ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-03  9:59       ` Sha Zhengju
2013-01-06 20:07   ` Greg Thelen
2013-01-09  9:45     ` Sha Zhengju
2012-12-25 17:26 ` [PATCH V3 5/8] memcg: add per cgroup writeback " Sha Zhengju
2012-12-28  0:52   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-01-02 11:15   ` Michal Hocko
2013-01-06 20:07   ` Greg Thelen
2013-01-09  9:08     ` Sha Zhengju
2012-12-25 17:27 ` [PATCH V3 6/8] memcg: Don't account root_mem_cgroup page statistics Sha Zhengju
2012-12-28  1:04   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-01-05  7:38     ` Sha Zhengju
2013-01-02 12:27   ` Michal Hocko
2013-01-05 10:52     ` Sha Zhengju
2013-01-09 12:57       ` Michal Hocko
2012-12-25 17:27 ` [PATCH V3 7/8] memcg: disable memcg page stat accounting code when not in use Sha Zhengju
2012-12-28  1:06   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-12-28  1:45   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-01-05 11:06     ` Sha Zhengju
2013-01-02 13:35   ` Michal Hocko
2012-12-25 17:28 ` [PATCH V3 8/8] memcg: Document cgroup dirty/writeback memory statistics Sha Zhengju
2012-12-28  1:10   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-01-06  2:55     ` Sha Zhengju
2013-01-02 13:36   ` Michal Hocko

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