From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755054AbYDFMNB (ORCPT ); Sun, 6 Apr 2008 08:13:01 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751520AbYDFMMu (ORCPT ); Sun, 6 Apr 2008 08:12:50 -0400 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.186]:56658 "EHLO moutng.kundenserver.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751402AbYDFMMt (ORCPT ); Sun, 6 Apr 2008 08:12:49 -0400 Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 14:12:03 +0200 (CEST) From: Bodo Eggert <7eggert@gmx.de> To: Nick Piggin cc: Bodo Eggert <7eggert@gmx.de>, Jeff Garzik , Andrew Morton , Chris Snook , Dave Jones , Linux Kernel , NetDev , David Miller , Linus Torvalds Subject: Re: GFP_ATOMIC page allocation failures. In-Reply-To: <200804051206.37394.nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au> Message-ID: References: <200804042159.54220.nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au> <200804051206.37394.nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=us-ascii X-be10.7eggert.dyndns.org-MailScanner-Information: See www.mailscanner.info for information X-be10.7eggert.dyndns.org-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-be10.7eggert.dyndns.org-MailScanner-From: 7eggert@gmx.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19v3+EvzIsVS4p/mMWxG8NkzsJX+yVPHfn+Z3c KGOSwAWjGn7hDS05sBP0rS2Xu6ssrHXh7ctZUWfIYbeC2gTF+/ x8uxNQzYnXLR0y1bV30XA== Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, 5 Apr 2008, Nick Piggin wrote: > On Friday 04 April 2008 22:35, Bodo Eggert wrote: > > On Fri, 4 Apr 2008, Nick Piggin wrote: > > > But actually developers do sometimes want see the event even if it is > > > relatively infrequent... > > > > You shouldn't frighten the users either. /proc/sys/vm/debug? > > Hence changing the message a to make it clear that it is not a > problem if it is infrequent. If it's no problem when infrequent, and if it's possible and cheap (less extra code than sizeof(explanation)) to not show a message if it's infrequent, why should the users be bothered at all? The system needs less than one ms to do the job, the admin needs five minutes to grep the logs. -- Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say: 72. My leave starts tomorrow.