From: Bodo Eggert <7eggert@gmx.de>
To: Evgeniy Polyakov <zbr@ioremap.net>
Cc: Bodo Eggert <7eggert@gmx.de>, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [why oom_adj does not work] Re: Linux killed Kenny, bastard!
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 15:12:49 +0100 (CET) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LSU.0.999.0901171504480.7336@be1.lrz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090115223557.GC10429@ioremap.net>
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 10:50:58PM +0100, Bodo Eggert (7eggert@gmx.de) wrote:
> > > This does not work if processes are short-living and are spawned by the
> > > parent on demand.
> >
> > They will have the same name, too. Your Kenny-killer will fail, too.
>
> It is not always the case, processes start executing different binaries
> and change the names, that's at least what I observed in the particular
> root case of the discussion.
In that case, you can use a wrapper script.
> > > If processes have different priority in regards to oom
> > > condition, this problem can not be solved with existing interfaces
> > > without changing the application. So effectively there is no solution.
> >
> > ACK, but being a child should count. Maybe the weight for childs should be
> > increased, if it does not do the right thing? Or maybe the childs do share
> > much (most of the) memory, so killing the parent is the right thing if you
> > want to free some RAM?
>
> There could be lots of heuristics applied for the different cases, but
> without changing the application, they are somewhat limited to
> long-living processes only. There are really lots of cases when it does
> not stand.
If it's short-lived enough, the processes will out-die the OOM-Killer.
You can only win by by suspending or killing the factory.
--
Why do men die before their wives?
They want to.
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2009-01-14 19:18 ` Bodo Eggert
2009-01-14 19:22 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-15 0:54 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-15 8:43 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-15 21:50 ` Bodo Eggert
2009-01-15 22:35 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-17 14:12 ` Bodo Eggert [this message]
2009-01-17 14:22 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-18 12:37 ` Bodo Eggert
2009-01-18 13:13 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-18 20:25 ` Bodo Eggert
2009-01-18 20:41 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-12 15:33 Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-12 15:44 ` Dave Jones
2009-01-12 15:48 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-12 15:51 ` Alan Cox
2009-01-13 13:52 ` [why oom_adj does not work] " Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-13 14:06 ` Alan Cox
2009-01-13 14:24 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-13 15:00 ` Balbir Singh
2009-01-13 15:21 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-13 18:04 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-01-13 19:46 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-13 21:33 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-13 21:39 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-13 22:05 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
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