From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932360AbcJGSQw (ORCPT ); Fri, 7 Oct 2016 14:16:52 -0400 Received: from mail-pf0-f177.google.com ([209.85.192.177]:34967 "EHLO mail-pf0-f177.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932269AbcJGSQf (ORCPT ); Fri, 7 Oct 2016 14:16:35 -0400 Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 11:16:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Hugh Dickins X-X-Sender: hugh@eggly.anvils To: Lorenzo Stoakes cc: Linus Torvalds , Jan Kara , Dave Hansen , Rik van Riel , Hugh Dickins , linux-mm , Mel Gorman , tbsaunde@tbsaunde.org, robert@ocallahan.org, Linux Kernel Mailing List , Andrew Morton Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: check VMA flags to avoid invalid PROT_NONE NUMA balancing In-Reply-To: <20161007162240.GA14350@lucifer> Message-ID: References: <20160911225425.10388-1-lstoakes@gmail.com> <20160925184731.GA20480@lucifer> <1474842875.17726.38.camel@redhat.com> <20161007100720.GA14859@lucifer> <20161007162240.GA14350@lucifer> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (LSU 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, 7 Oct 2016, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote: > On Fri, Oct 07, 2016 at 08:34:15AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > Would you be willing to look at doing that kind of purely syntactic, > > non-semantic cleanup first? > > Sure, more than happy to do that! I'll work on a patch for this. > > > I think that if we end up having the FOLL_FORCE semantics, we're > > actually better off having an explicit FOLL_FORCE flag, and *not* do > > some kind of implicit "under these magical circumstances we'll force > > it anyway". The implicit thing is what we used to do long long ago, we > > definitely don't want to. > > That's a good point, it would definitely be considerably more 'magical', and > expanding the conditions to include uprobes etc. would only add to that. > > I wondered about an alternative parameter/flag but it felt like it was > more-or-less FOLL_FORCE in a different form, at which point it may as well > remain FOLL_FORCE :) Adding Jan Kara (and Dave Hansen) to the Cc list: I think they were pursuing get_user_pages() cleanups last year (which would remove the force option from most callers anyway), and I've lost track of where that all got to. Lorenzo, please don't expend a lot of effort before checking with Jan. Hugh