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From: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
To: Alex Shi <alex.shi@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Qian Cai <cai@lca.pw>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, nao.horiguchi@gmail.com,
	osalvador@suse.de, mike.kravetz@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [Resend PATCH 1/6] mm/memcg: warning on !memcg after readahead page charged
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 19:04:53 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LSU.2.11.2008241849020.1171@eggly.anvils> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <12425e06-38ce-7ff4-28ce-b0418353fc67@linux.alibaba.com>

On Tue, 25 Aug 2020, Alex Shi wrote:
> reproduce using our linux-mm random bug collection on NUMA systems.
> >>
> >> OK, I must have missed that this was on ppc. The order makes more sense
> >> now. I will have a look at this next week.
> > 
> > OK, so I've had a look and I know what's going on there. The
> > move_pages12 is migrating hugetlb pages. Those are not charged to any
> > memcg. We have completely missed this case. There are two ways going
> > around that. Drop the warning and update the comment so that we do not
> > forget about that or special case hugetlb pages.
> > 
> > I think the first option is better.
> > 
> 
> 
> Hi Michal,
> 
> Compare to ignore the warning which is designed to give, seems addressing
> the hugetlb out of charge issue is a better solution, otherwise the memcg
> memory usage is out of control on hugetlb, is that right?

Please don't suppose that this is peculiar to hugetlb: I'm not
testing hugetlb at all (sorry), but I see the VM_WARN_ON_ONCE from
mem_cgroup_page_lruvec(), and from mem_cgroup_migrate(), and from
mem_cgroup_swapout().

In all cases seen on a PageAnon page (well, in one case PageKsm).
And not related to THP either: seen also on machine incapable of THP.

Maybe there's an independent change in 5.9-rc that's defeating
expectations here, or maybe they were never valid.  Worth
investigating, even though the patch is currently removed,
to find out why expectations were wrong.

You'll ask me for more info, stacktraces etc, and I'll say sorry,
no time today.  Please try the swapping tests I sent before.

And may I say, the comment
/* Readahead page is charged too, to see if other page uncharged */
is nonsensical to me, and much better deleted: maybe it would make
some sense if the reader could see the comment it replaces - as
they can in the patch - but not in the resulting source file.

Hugh

  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-25  2:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-11 11:10 Alex Shi
2020-08-11 11:10 ` [Resend PATCH 2/6] mm/memcg: remove useless check on page->mem_cgroup Alex Shi
2020-08-11 11:30   ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-11 12:42     ` Alex Shi
2020-08-11 12:54     ` Alex Shi
2020-08-11 13:56       ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-12  3:25         ` Alex Shi
2020-08-13  6:20           ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-13  9:45             ` Alex Shi
2020-08-13 11:01               ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-11 11:10 ` [Resend PATCH 3/6] mm/thp: move lru_add_page_tail func to huge_memory.c Alex Shi
2020-08-11 11:10 ` [Resend PATCH 4/6] mm/thp: clean up lru_add_page_tail Alex Shi
2020-08-11 11:10 ` [Resend PATCH 5/6] mm/thp: remove code path which never got into Alex Shi
2020-08-11 11:10 ` [Resend PATCH 6/6] mm/thp: narrow lru locking Alex Shi
2020-08-20 14:58 ` [Resend PATCH 1/6] mm/memcg: warning on !memcg after readahead page charged Qian Cai
2020-08-21  8:01   ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-21 12:39     ` Qian Cai
2020-08-21 13:48       ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-21 14:01         ` Qian Cai
2020-08-24 15:10         ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-25  1:25           ` Alex Shi
2020-08-25  2:04             ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2020-08-27  6:00               ` Hugh Dickins
2020-08-25  7:25             ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-24 14:52   ` Qian Cai
2020-08-24 15:10     ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-24 23:00       ` Stephen Rothwell
2020-08-24 23:14         ` Alex Shi

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