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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Bradley Morgan <include@grrlz.net>
Cc: brauner@kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, tglx@kernel.org,
	peterz@infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] signal: add a helper for the si_code kernel impersonation check
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2026 22:08:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <anOYP3sEwR4tsWeq@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <28A302F8-20DB-46D6-AEA5-5F46824E57D4@grrlz.net>

On 08/05, Bradley Morgan wrote:
>
> On 5 August 2026 20:26:47 BST, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> wrote:
> >On 07/06, Bradley Morgan wrote:
> >>
> >> +/*
> >> + * si_code values >= 0 and SI_TKILL are reserved to the kernel. Not
> >even
> >> + * root can use them to pretend a signal was sent by the kernel or by
> >> + * kill()/tgkill(), except when signaling itself.
> >> + */
> >> +static bool si_code_reserved_to_kernel(int si_code)
> >> +{
> >> +	return si_code >= 0 || si_code == SI_TKILL;
> >> +}
> >
> >...
> >
> >>  static int do_rt_sigqueueinfo(pid_t pid, int sig, kernel_siginfo_t
> >*info)
> >>  {
> >> -	/* Not even root can pretend to send signals from the kernel.
> >> -	 * Nor can they impersonate a kill()/tgkill(), which adds source info.
> >> -	 */
> >> -	if ((info->si_code >= 0 || info->si_code == SI_TKILL) &&
> >> -	    (task_pid_vnr(current) != pid))
> >> +	if (si_code_reserved_to_kernel(info->si_code) &&
> >> +	    task_pid_vnr(current) != pid)
> >
> >Well, technically this (cosmetic) change is obviouly correct. And I do
> >agree
> >it makes sense to factor out these checks and (more importantly) the
> >comments.
> >
> >But. IMO, the new comment looks a bit worse.
> >
> >The old comment has "impersonate a kill()/tgkill(), which adds source
> >info"
> >and this in fact explains that si_code == 0 or si_code == SI_TKILL come
> >with
> >the real/valid .si_pid and .si_uid  and the reciever can trust them.
> >
>
> Hmm, what do you suggest?

Hmm. it seems I wasn't clear...

If nothing else you can keep the old comment:

	* Not even root can pretend to send signals from the kernel.
	* Nor can they impersonate a kill()/tgkill(), which adds source info.

IMO, no need to add "si_code values >= 0 and SI_TKILL ..." at the start, this
just mirrors what the new (and trivial!) helper does.

May be you can improve it a bit, something like

	* Not even root can pretend to send SI_FROMKERNEL() signals.
	* Nor can they impersonate kill()/tgkill(), which have si_pid/uid

but this is subjective and minor.

I am fine either way. Just IMO the old comment(s) was more useful.

Oleg.


      reply	other threads:[~2026-08-05 20:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-06 12:40 Bradley Morgan
2026-08-05 19:26 ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-08-05 19:46   ` Bradley Morgan
2026-08-05 20:08     ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]

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