From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-alma10-1.taild15c8.ts.net [100.103.45.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E5DA345199C for ; Fri, 28 Aug 2026 13:07:15 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=100.103.45.18 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1787922438; cv=none; b=hCl5tDjnTjN7OR3/+PCTxuf4SqQWQffohD5xrmqUVHwaow+Lx+wiE7h5b/aPD5lr9FgydYhJUkW9V/RMunStkUKGZoZQXslu7jjARV7NRgM5Lpt1XIuGExr2sxIbYHe/jzuriE91CYJ4t5ca2XdBqb/uxBS+vlQt8mcWsB3TdXI= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1787922438; c=relaxed/simple; bh=FGXU9hCiXREruV/PI5jXJyYiXmjNo/cxlv1BBKCwWyI=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=ooJtxxJc8RnCfKIu5j/hjQaI3JOcqWobjoV7fy+rXZO70h34Xuy9lr/f0N/JHeJg0STJ7UvpOgxvMuAhtBVya5BP+cRTxn5FSJJL+kr+zCKAxehM+UjRDYhhHLPNIfaP8QvYLRiTPJeeH7aSHh0QdL/GVI5jK0SqwBvwpxXs8UE= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=HRm7LaJJ; arc=none smtp.client-ip=100.103.45.18 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="HRm7LaJJ" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D408E1F00A3D; Fri, 28 Aug 2026 13:07:13 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kernel.org; s=k20260515; t=1787922435; bh=1YZkfUvCoyZHLzyn7ea4/HyPggA3fnupl8cIKNYULpk=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=HRm7LaJJEXTiDiGTKCZo5l2w5kN1TcYSeJ9E48rQNiz6LBaQNFB2bKP4AHBipiq8h YVxk60l2Cn6/hAurga4ATD+2RfrWaG4ySotIPL7Qda9iFoOVBwRrySKhWI8pVMwDPW lCDMccPUxYtiMTthIsnC6uiu4nk97j9lDetGFeNSCozb1O9uQ4k+wY1cGB85jY0D/9 HG/1aEtypMZePyyCdCDCBGjvrTFQevBEIc9mmBs0A7lESv4ehPD3de7jcMP8UmyqWS CpNiIA0gRbnxwzBMFGltYkgXGmzpSvL10YP+gw9pKHpmgRulYhQx1YLoWpnGkiSuur 62G+Oi3GG3uow== Received: from phl-compute-05.internal (phl-compute-05.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailfauth.ams.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8728C1980050; Fri, 28 Aug 2026 09:07:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phl-frontend-03 ([10.202.2.162]) by phl-compute-05.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 28 Aug 2026 09:07:12 -0400 X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: dmFkZTG28vjlh/jrZIe0v56Xspzegu6WkfWJNqumN3G8EyZWPE+j12ot5ZQ3BXZTGKKstt ZACDkBdMBDCfrwUht/IM7FreRRPd/qVf2YDZto2H7EgwYkYS27XFH+pXmy/RPr+F+MDrsf L+M6NlBc7fDRfJh75IZbb7iLqdI3hKiB5ge75aGaLPYMy9mJJzFOP7p05J2IydJrP/bG4c REgPSHsV2nJfQa6/FnBSFrR3eMVRFHifx+Yr8b64twmyBRJDjYQw6NhC3aieIKvXOMWsy+ TO3LcTQWOtP630Du3jcNhUsiowPO+C1L8ObqZY8hPhIDBpkKC3Uz1fq/qkSZgG4wHmyNiX /YsWahIsRswdahPS/RnCCuJqsB6QI9chbdBNs2y8P7C3T99TFvj81/pjghD3wPX4HK46da kIlJ4yxv2DsBYdzz88j+nU4qQ5fSYMcudHkWfwlJI6RaXwB8iYWuMY/GVCXuAA3ew9Hutn tRBjvnnwqr0KtyFuc1yF7Hmm+J4qAf+YYGCnYgSB9DQDByGDAiWz7yfrLAatv4oB3zv/vH FA+guGwkq2fcEAqa1rqntNvVw3v2Q4sz8ggF0bvtDruPLp2A8/9IEnu+HNxu4Q9dyll+ke hRhuzhqFAVi9qeaU79QXUHkzTljt91CieuIiTqkTwGV5JSGXglvecUZ+eKuw X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i10464835:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Fri, 28 Aug 2026 09:07:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2026 14:07:07 +0100 From: Kiryl Shutsemau To: Lance Yang Cc: jthoughton@google.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org, david@kernel.org, ljs@kernel.org, ziy@nvidia.com, baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com, liam@infradead.org, nico.pache@linux.dev, ryan.roberts@arm.com, dev.jain@arm.com, baohua@kernel.org, usama.arif@linux.dev, shy828301@gmail.com, zokeefe@google.com, hughd@google.com, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/khugepaged: Don't collapse uffd-minor-registered VMAs Message-ID: References: <20260828005004.2870750-1-jthoughton@google.com> <20260828094703.11081-1-lance.yang@linux.dev> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20260828094703.11081-1-lance.yang@linux.dev> On Fri, Aug 28, 2026 at 05:47:03PM +0800, Lance Yang wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 28, 2026 at 12:50:04AM +0000, James Houghton wrote: > >Userfaultfd minor faults provides userspace with the ability to manually > >install PTEs with UFFDIO_CONTINUE. Right now, khugepaged collapse can > >map holes in the VMA when a naturally-aligned THP is present without > >explicit action from userspace. > > > >This is a problem, as it bypasses userfaultfd minor faults that > >userspace is expecting to handle. > > One basic question first. Should MADV_COLLAPSE refuse to collapse a > UFFD-minor-registered VMA, regardless of whether all PTEs are present? I think the line is not between MADV_COLLAPSE vs khugepaged, it is if vma->vm_mm is current->mm or not. In other words, we might want to allow collapse if workload itself asks for it, but not for khugepaged or *external* process_madvise(MADV_COLLAPSE). is_khugepaged is not the right proxy. -- Kiryl Shutsemau / Kirill A. Shutemov