From: Yury Norov <ynorov@nvidia.com>
To: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
Cc: Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 05/12] sched/core: Try to use a preferred CPU in is_cpu_allowed
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2026 15:31:27 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <apMziCV_8y0xeIBT@yury> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8262d2f9-9f2f-4821-8497-991d7c8448a3@arm.com>
On Fri, Aug 28, 2026 at 09:51:47AM +0200, Dietmar Eggemann wrote:
> On 25.08.26 12:38, Shrikanth Hegde wrote:
> > When possible, try to choose a preferred CPU.
> >
> > This is essential to maintain user affinities when preferred
> > CPUs change. A task pinned on a non-preferred CPU should continue
> > to run there, since this is a non-user triggered event.
> >
> > If a CPU is non-preferred and the task can run on other CPUs which are
> > currently preferred, then choose a preferred CPU instead.
> > This is decided by checking if cpus_ptr and cpu_preferred_mask
> > intersect or not. If yes, then the task has other preferred CPUs.
> >
> > The push task mechanism uses a stopper thread which calls
> > select_fallback_rq() and uses this mechanism to pick a preferred CPU.
> >
> > This takes care of the wakeup path for FAIR tasks too.
> > is_cpu_allowed() is called to ensure wakeups happen on preferred CPUs.
> > With that, additional checks in available_idle_cpu() are not necessary.
> >
> > Ignore the preferred CPU state if a task's affinity is changing and
> > its new mask no longer includes the CPU it is currently running on.
> > This ensures migration_cpu_stop() does not abort, preventing the task
> > from being stranded outside its allowed affinity.
> >
> > Account for tasks with architecture-specific CPU masks
> > (e.g., 32-bit tasks on arm64). For such tasks, explicitly check against
> > the arch-allowed CPUs to determine if any of the preferred CPUs are
> > actually valid.
> >
> > For the majority of cases, this would still keep select_fallback_rq()
> > as O(N). cpumask_intersects(), which is O(N), is called only if
> > !cpu_preferred. The task running there is expected to move out.
> > Subsequently, it should run on a preferred CPU. This becomes O(N**2)
> > only for tasks pinned solely to non-preferred CPUs. That is a rare case.
> >
> > Overhead is minimal when the CPU is preferred.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>
> > ---
> > kernel/sched/core.c | 41 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--
> > 1 file changed, 39 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/kernel/sched/core.c b/kernel/sched/core.c
> > index a45f7c308329..f71317fe281d 100644
> > --- a/kernel/sched/core.c
> > +++ b/kernel/sched/core.c
> > @@ -2494,6 +2494,35 @@ static inline bool rq_has_pinned_tasks(struct rq *rq)
> > return rq->nr_pinned;
> > }
> >
> > +static inline bool task_can_sched_on_preferred(int cpu, struct task_struct *p)
> > +{
> > + const struct cpumask *valid_mask;
> > + int i;
> > +
> > + if (cpu_preferred(cpu))
> > + return false;
> > +
> > + /* Only FAIR tasks honor preferred CPU state */
> > + if (unlikely(p->sched_class != &fair_sched_class))
> > + return false;
> > +
> > + /* Ignore preferred state if task affinity is changing */
> > + if (unlikely(!cpumask_test_cpu(task_cpu(p), p->cpus_ptr)))
> > + return false;
> > +
> > + valid_mask = task_cpu_possible_mask(p);
> > + if (likely(valid_mask == cpu_possible_mask))
> > + return cpumask_intersects(p->cpus_ptr, cpu_preferred_mask);
> > +
> > + /* Tasks with arch-specific CPU masks. e.g. 32-bit tasks on arm64. */
> > + for_each_cpu_and(i, p->cpus_ptr, cpu_preferred_mask) {
> > + if (cpumask_test_cpu(i, valid_mask))
> > + return true;
> > + }
>
> Looking more into this, there might be a window in 64-32-bit execve()
> for 32bit EL0 tasks on Arm64 (w/ allow_mismatched_32bit_el0 command line
> option).
>
> The time before arch_setup_new_exec() calls
> force_compatible_cpus_allowed_ptr() to restrict CPU affinity for those
> tasks.
>
> Let me run more test on this ...
>
> Why not simply:
>
> - return cpumask_intersects(p->cpus_ptr, cpu_preferred_mask);
> + return cpumask_first_and_and(p->cpus_ptr, cpu_preferred_mask,
> + task_cpu_possible_mask(p)) < nr_cpu_ids;
>
> IMHO, you want to know whether there is at least one CPU that belongs to
> all three CPU masks?
Yeah, the cpumask_first_and_and() would replace the for-loop more
effectively, but I'd suggest introducing the new helper:
return cpumask_intersects_and(p->cpus_ptr, cpu_preferred_mask,
task_cpu_possible_mask(p));
This would also highlight the intention better - we're looking for
intersection, and call the 'intersects' function.
I don't like how this patch plays with likely() macro.
Possible == task_possible condition is surely likely for x86, but is
always unlikely for aarch64/el0-32 tasks. This would lead to suboptimal
code generation on aarch64.
The approach I've suggested also worsen performance because of a
possibly unnecessary traversing of the cpu_possible_mask.
If task_can_sched_on_preferred() is really a performance critical piece
of code, we can invent arch_task_can_sched_on_preferred() to avoid it.
--
On general side, the governor is really tested in 2 configurations:
PPC+powervm and x86+kvm; and there's clearly an interest from XEN and
ARM engineers.
Maybe, to stay on safe side, we'd enable the feature where it's actually
tested? I suggested it when DOM0 case was revealed, and now we've got
the 2nd corner case from arm64 compat tasks.
The advantages of this approach are:
- faster adoption of the existing code for the tested architectures;
- delegate arch/vm support to the domain professionals;
- delay arch/vm support decisions to the later phase of adoption, when
the API is better stabilized.
Thanks,
Yury
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-08-29 19:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-08-25 10:38 [PATCH v11 00/12] sched, steal_governor: Introduce preferred CPUs and steal-driven vCPU backoff Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-25 10:38 ` [PATCH v11 01/12] sched/cputime: Add kcpustat_field_total helper Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-25 10:38 ` [PATCH v11 02/12] sched/docs: Document cpu_preferred_mask and Preferred CPU concept Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-25 10:38 ` [PATCH v11 03/12] cpumask: Introduce cpu_preferred_mask Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-25 10:38 ` [PATCH v11 04/12] sysfs: Add preferred CPU file Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-25 10:38 ` [PATCH v11 05/12] sched/core: Try to use a preferred CPU in is_cpu_allowed Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-28 7:51 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2026-08-28 10:38 ` Vincent Guittot
2026-08-28 10:59 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-29 19:31 ` Yury Norov [this message]
2026-08-25 10:38 ` [PATCH v11 06/12] sched/fair: Load balance only among preferred CPUs Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-25 10:38 ` [PATCH v11 07/12] sched/core: Push current task from non preferred CPU Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-25 10:38 ` [PATCH v11 08/12] sched/debug: Add migration stats due to non preferred CPUs Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-25 10:38 ` [PATCH v11 09/12] virt: Introduce steal governor driver Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-25 10:38 ` [PATCH v11 10/12] virt/steal_governor: Add control knobs for handling steal values Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-25 10:38 ` [PATCH v11 11/12] virt/steal_governor: Implement steal_governor policy loop Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-25 10:38 ` [PATCH v11 12/12] virt/steal_governor: Enable the driver Shrikanth Hegde
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