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From: "Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)" <ljs@kernel.org>
To: Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com>
Cc: "Björn Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 20/23] kbuild: rust: parallelise rustc front end
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2026 15:26:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aqFsNv9MDwYq9kbL@gremlin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANiq72=rUrjFD8dHggtO5g0D5Yu-LjO4s7t=+yoKtteD56KfXw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Sep 09, 2026 at 02:59:13PM +0200, Miguel Ojeda wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2026 at 12:22 PM Björn Baron <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > There are still several known reproducibility issues for the parallel
> > frontend[1] and at least until fairly recently there were also deadlock
> > issues and incorrect errors[2], so I would not recommend enabling it without
> > an explicit request from the user. Perhaps even only allow it on nightly
> > rustc for now, then you don't need to check which of the two spellings of
> > the flag is supported.
>
> Thanks a lot for taking a look Björn.
>
> If there are still major issues even in nightly, then I would say
> let's not add it yet -- some users/CIs are testing with nightly
> routinely, so it is probably best to avoid surprises for them. (If
> someone wants to test the flag, they can still pass it manually.)
>
> On the other hand, if there are no major issues left and it is just
> reproducibility issues, then I guess we could add it to help figure
> those issues out and avoid surprises later on.

Yup, I am encouraged by 'until fairly recently' on that ;) so maybe just
bump version requirement to whatever this recently was?

>
> > By the way, currently backend parallelism is entirely disabled due to the
> > usage of --emit obj (which forces -Ccodegen-units=1). For -O2/3 builds
>
> Yeah, we even set `-Ccodegen-units=1` explicitly at the moment, so we
> would need to change that too (and likely make it an option, because
> normally end users will want the best results, while developers may
> want speed of iteration).
>
> Cheers,
> Miguel

--
Cheers, Lorenzo

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-09 14:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-08 20:55 [PATCH 00/23] kbuild: significantly speed up kernel builds Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-08 20:55 ` [PATCH 01/23] scripts/mksysmap: drop the MODULE_INFO() symbols from kallsyms Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-09 19:47   ` Nicolas Schier
2026-09-10 11:00     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-10  4:19   ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-09-10 11:03     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-10 19:00   ` Nicolas Schier
2026-09-08 20:55 ` [PATCH 02/23] scripts/mksysmap: fix escape of '$' in the __pi_ pattern Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-09 19:47   ` Nicolas Schier
2026-09-10 11:04     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-10  4:19   ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-09-10 11:21     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-10 19:00   ` Nicolas Schier
2026-09-08 20:55 ` [PATCH 03/23] kallsyms: index symbols by token to speed up table compression Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-08 20:55 ` [PATCH 04/23] kallsyms: output binary data to speed output and kallsyms assembly Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-09 14:35   ` Linus Torvalds
2026-09-10  9:29   ` David Laight
2026-09-11 11:07     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-08 20:55 ` [PATCH 05/23] kbuild: do not sort nm output where the order is irrelevant Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-10  4:19   ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-09-08 20:55 ` [PATCH 06/23] kbuild: only emit vmlinux relocations when required Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-10  4:19   ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-09-08 20:55 ` [PATCH 07/23] elf-parse: add section flags, symbol binding and a read-only mapping Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-08 20:55 ` [PATCH 08/23] kallsyms: reimplement mksysmap in C Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-08 20:55 ` [PATCH 09/23] kbuild: do not allocate .modinfo in vmlinux Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-10  4:19   ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-09-10 10:59     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-08 20:55 ` [PATCH 10/23] kbuild: cache list, composite object state per object Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-08 20:55 ` [PATCH 11/23] kbuild: implement and use depcheck to check dependency timestamps Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-09 15:26   ` Linus Torvalds
2026-09-08 20:55 ` [PATCH 12/23] kbuild: avoid re-running compiler and linker probes Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-10  4:19   ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-09-10 15:42     ` Nicolas Schier
2026-09-11 10:30       ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-11 17:33       ` David Laight
2026-09-11 10:26     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-08 20:55 ` [PATCH 13/23] modpost: hash module source per-file, not per-byte Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-10 12:52   ` Petr Pavlu
2026-09-11 10:41     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-11 11:57       ` Petr Pavlu
2026-09-11 12:21         ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-08 20:55 ` [PATCH 14/23] modpost: cache section relocation mismatch state Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-08 20:55 ` [PATCH 15/23] modpost: emit module descriptors as assembly Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-09 14:59   ` Linus Torvalds
2026-09-08 20:55 ` [PATCH 16/23] kbuild: batch module finalisation Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-10 15:48   ` Nicolas Schier
2026-09-11 10:23     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-08 20:55 ` [PATCH 17/23] modpost: perform srcversion hashing in parallel Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-10 10:32   ` David Laight
2026-09-11 10:49     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-08 20:55 ` [PATCH 18/23] objtool: cache relocations and function dead end state, do less work Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-08 20:55 ` [PATCH 19/23] objtool: decode instructions and resolve branch targets in parallel Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-08 20:55 ` [PATCH 20/23] kbuild: rust: parallelise rustc front end Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-08 21:13   ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-09-09 14:22     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-09 10:22   ` Björn Baron
2026-09-09 12:59     ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-09-09 14:26       ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) [this message]
2026-09-10 12:25     ` Nicolas Schier (FRITZ!)
2026-09-08 20:55 ` [PATCH 21/23] rust: make exports.o depend on the headers generated for it Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-08 20:55 ` [PATCH 22/23] kbuild: build rust crates in parallel with the rest of the build Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-08 20:55 ` [PATCH 23/23] kbuild: use pigz for gzip compression if available Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-10  4:19   ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-09-11 11:03     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-08 21:06 ` [PATCH 00/23] kbuild: significantly speed up kernel builds Nick Desaulniers
2026-09-09 14:17   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-09 22:09     ` Nick Desaulniers
2026-09-11 11:25       ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-09 15:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-09-09 16:30   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-09 21:58 ` Florian Fainelli
2026-09-11 11:28   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-10  4:19 ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-09-11 11:13   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)

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