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From: Kiryl Shutsemau <kirill@shutemov.name>
To: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, david@kernel.org, ljs@kernel.org,
	 rppt@kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
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	hughd@google.com,  lance.yang@linux.dev, liam@infradead.org,
	mhocko@suse.com, ryan.roberts@arm.com,  shuah@kernel.org,
	surenb@google.com, vbabka@kernel.org, agordeev@linux.ibm.com,
	 jgg@ziepe.ca, leon@kernel.org, kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 06/19] selftests/mm: stop khugepaged during the MADV_COLLAPSE cases
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2026 11:59:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aqKNcw8-2H035xyc@thinkstation> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ba2d7885-f017-4d4c-bb59-e45f8b9f1b63@linux.alibaba.com>

On Thu, Sep 10, 2026 at 02:27:28PM +0800, Baolin Wang wrote:
> 
> 
> On 9/9/26 6:41 PM, Kiryl Shutsemau wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 09, 2026 at 05:55:01PM +0800, Baolin Wang wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 9/8/26 8:50 PM, Kiryl Shutsemau wrote:
> > > > From: "Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)" <kas@kernel.org>
> > > > 
> > > > __madvise_collapse() turns THP off before each MADV_COLLAPSE, both to keep
> > > > khugepaged out of the range and to prove MADV_COLLAPSE ignores the setting.
> > > > It clears the global controls only, which is no longer enough.  A per-order
> > > > control overrides them, and -s, which makes the cases fault in folios of
> > > > one order, leaves that order's control at "always".  khugepaged then
> > > > collapses the very range the case is working on, and the case fails on a
> > > > collapse that was interfered with rather than refused.
> > > 
> > > Right. So I think the correct fix tag is b7f16963efe7 ("mm/khugepaged: run
> > > khugepaged for all orders"), because before this commit, khugepaged would
> > > not try to collapse this range since it only checked whether the PMD order
> > > was suitable for collapse.
> > 
> > Agreed.  The series is in mm-new already; if a respin is needed I will use
> > that tag.
> > 
> > > > @@ -547,9 +547,16 @@ static void __madvise_collapse(const char *msg, char *p, int nr_hpages,
> > > >    	/*
> > > >    	 * Prevent khugepaged interference and tests that MADV_COLLAPSE
> > > >    	 * ignores /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/enabled
> > > > +	 *
> > > > +	 * "inherit" rather than "never" so that MADV_COLLAPSE on shmem still
> > > > +	 * finds an order to build.
> > > >    	 */
> > > >    	settings.thp_enabled = THP_NEVER;
> > > >    	settings.shmem_enabled = SHMEM_NEVER;
> > > > +	for (i = 0; i < NR_ORDERS; i++) {
> > > > +		settings.hugepages[i].enabled = THP_INHERIT;
> > > > +		settings.shmem_hugepages[i].enabled = SHMEM_INHERIT;
> > > > +	}
> > > 
> > > This looks like a workaround to me. Shouldn't we fix this in shmem instead?
> > 
> > Good point.
> > 
> > It can be a follow-up patch.  Do you want to make a proper shmem.c fix
> > and update the selftest along with it?
> 
> Either way works for me.

Please, do it as a standlone shmem fix, plus selftest update to reflect
the change.

-- 
  Kiryl Shutsemau / Kirill A. Shutemov

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-10 10:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-08 12:50 [PATCH v5 00/19] selftests/mm: improve khugepaged coverage Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-08 12:50 ` [PATCH v5 01/19] selftests/mm: raise the khugepaged test-case cap Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-09  7:42   ` Baolin Wang
2026-09-08 12:50 ` [PATCH v5 02/19] selftests/mm: skip collapse_compound_extreme() where the PMD is too large Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-09  7:51   ` Baolin Wang
2026-09-08 12:50 ` [PATCH v5 03/19] selftests/mm: scale khugepaged's collapse wait with the PMD size Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-09  7:59   ` Baolin Wang
2026-09-09 10:09     ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-09 10:17       ` Baolin Wang
2026-09-08 12:50 ` [PATCH v5 04/19] selftests/mm: skip khugepaged page cache cases without a PMD folio Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-09  8:21   ` Baolin Wang
2026-09-08 12:50 ` [PATCH v5 05/19] selftests/mm: make the swap cases' swapout reliable Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-09  8:59   ` Baolin Wang
2026-09-08 12:50 ` [PATCH v5 06/19] selftests/mm: stop khugepaged during the MADV_COLLAPSE cases Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-09  9:55   ` Baolin Wang
2026-09-09 10:41     ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-10  6:27       ` Baolin Wang
2026-09-10 10:59         ` Kiryl Shutsemau [this message]
2026-09-10 11:06           ` Baolin Wang
2026-09-08 12:50 ` [PATCH v5 07/19] selftests/mm: move is_backed_by_folio() into vm_util Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-09  9:16   ` Baolin Wang
2026-09-08 12:50 ` [PATCH v5 08/19] selftests/mm: add folio-order check for address ranges Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-09 10:01   ` Baolin Wang
2026-09-10 10:45     ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-10 11:14       ` Baolin Wang
2026-09-10 13:04         ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-11  2:50           ` Baolin Wang
2026-09-08 12:50 ` [PATCH v5 09/19] selftests/mm: add folio-order detection self-check Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-08 12:50 ` [PATCH v5 10/19] selftests/mm: add khugepaged completion barrier helper Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-10  1:17   ` Baolin Wang
2026-09-08 12:50 ` [PATCH v5 11/19] selftests/mm: add order-parameterized khugepaged collapse cases Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-10  4:59   ` Baolin Wang
2026-09-10 10:53     ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-08 12:50 ` [PATCH v5 12/19] selftests/mm: parameterize the mixed-source collapse case by source order Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-10  5:09   ` Baolin Wang
2026-09-10 10:58     ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-08 12:50 ` [PATCH v5 13/19] selftests/mm: cover a shared-source collapse write race Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-08 21:02   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-08 12:51 ` [PATCH v5 14/19] selftests/mm: run every supported collapse order by default Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-10  6:07   ` Baolin Wang
2026-09-08 12:51 ` [PATCH v5 15/19] selftests/mm: check that one khugepaged pass collapses one window Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-08 12:51 ` [PATCH v5 16/19] selftests/mm: add khugepaged race harness Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-08 21:34   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-08 12:51 ` [PATCH v5 17/19] selftests/mm: race the collapse of windows with holes Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-08 12:51 ` [PATCH v5 18/19] selftests/mm: add memory-pressure threads to the khugepaged race harness Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-08 12:51 ` [PATCH v5 19/19] selftests/mm: zap whole PTE tables in " Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-08 19:41 ` [PATCH v5 00/19] selftests/mm: improve khugepaged coverage Andrew Morton
2026-09-08 21:36   ` Kiryl Shutsemau

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