From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-alma10-1.taild15c8.ts.net [100.103.45.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2CD023E3145; Tue, 15 Sep 2026 15:14:16 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=100.103.45.18 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1789485260; cv=none; b=AnWJoEQ+ARpZOnbhcAwHmPyeQm+2k2xdkbKeOEEFTrd89AJR8tUJLWudIlTVWQ0RyBpH+kWSCtq4Kb0pRzdi/y28OVjIHNdwjTYLljMr6/yDM5MmCZUJRGcidjKcjmcH+IwfW2zUkqrsCBIvjoyGf8MzG3aqIvhRxutzrNWa7io= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1789485260; c=relaxed/simple; bh=r3wfMg9IBBl6s6wTwl/6U9t5fFqGpP0EHGkkC3Pwf5M=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=AIGaHSrAGmxwqDzRbndT2vZ/bneG27veGzFB9UjdTU8ADb1LZH0MTP1SJXidaLfC90gLDJlCw/GXXGnwJCq2OMdHsY5hwGlN7XskCOj8AUdG4IXTvWy9mm4Pap63JhkSUq3EHi+s4jStx3z/NjPfy4sgwMIp6EY5cJSGSmz4Sg0= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=SGhRs7Cy; arc=none smtp.client-ip=100.103.45.18 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="SGhRs7Cy" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9C0DE1F000FF; Tue, 15 Sep 2026 15:14:14 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kernel.org; s=k20260515; t=1789485255; bh=X3+2zYRSpciM7uYDkfrVnfpdjazC9P6LhL6MmIorApI=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=SGhRs7CyUcB+xKNzzgWZcvokGEOOVMOQJ3OETwnVY4jRSuKplqoTwyAHVl1KH+8b0 VNFp7fTkeI9e0+ZC+dM3TCI/46xIVfnf6Hk9+kbi2++thNjHW5PBB5/REKjWuWnhOX NsSD7M8d1YeI07hn49Tk4V15z8kJeBIKxKfhHx/GhLBjJYbwN3chruH08krEcNHwOL tIzZTpw/abh24Oe+viSlZfRNOaS6B5P91oMAkTKw/YqLk36i3YOHepcXc0roWktlD6 DjzlWtA6jsr6cBjFcAyGQ1ancIHd7wSK3XNR1o86hlnCFoVmiGndLQ4Fj8yQl/Cg9F e28SqUFMkedvA== Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2026 17:14:12 +0200 From: Frederic Weisbecker To: Josef Bacik Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" , Neeraj Upadhyay , Joel Fernandes , Boqun Feng , Thomas Gleixner , Peter Zijlstra , Steven Rostedt , Masami Hiramatsu , Mark Rutland , Jiri Olsa , Alexei Starovoitov , Daniel Borkmann , Andrii Nakryiko , x86@kernel.org, Catalin Marinas , Will Deacon , Puranjay Mohan , Xu Kuohai , Andy Lutomirski , Josh Triplett , Uladzislau Rezki , Mathieu Desnoyers , Lai Jiangshan , Zqiang , Juergen Gross , Luis Chamberlain , Ihor Solodrai , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rcu@vger.kernel.org, linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v3 03/13] rcu-tasks: Add a Tasks RCU implementation for reader-marked trampolines Message-ID: References: <20260915-b4-rcu-tasks-preempt-qs-v3-0-0ad30c4c5ee7@toxicpanda.com> <20260915-b4-rcu-tasks-preempt-qs-v3-3-0ad30c4c5ee7@toxicpanda.com> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20260915-b4-rcu-tasks-preempt-qs-v3-3-0ad30c4c5ee7@toxicpanda.com> Le Tue, Sep 15, 2026 at 01:17:30PM +0000, Josef Bacik a écrit : > Tasks RCU waits for every task to pass through a voluntary context > switch, usermode or idle, because a preempted task might be sitting in a > trampoline that is about to be freed and nothing marks it as such. With > PREEMPT_LAZY that is a poor fit for servers: cond_resched() is a no-op, > so a CPU-bound kthread only ever leaves the CPU by preemption, and one > such kthread holds every synchronize_rcu_tasks() caller -- ftrace and > BPF trampoline teardown under their mutexes, the kprobe jump optimizer > under text_mutex and cpus_read_lock() -- hostage for as long as it runs. > > Following the discussion on v2, take the other road: let the > architecture make its trampolines Tasks Trace RCU readers. When an > architecture selects HAVE_RCU_TRAMPOLINE_READERS it promises that every > trampoline whose lifetime Tasks RCU guards enters rcu_read_lock_trace() > (or its assembly equivalent) before calling out and leaves it before > returning, so a task anywhere inside such a call-out, preempted or not, > is an ordinary Tasks Trace reader. > > That leaves the few instructions of trampoline text before the reader > is entered and after it is left (plus, in a later patch, the bytes a > kprobe jump optimization is about to overwrite). A task can only linger > there by being interrupted there, and such text never calls anything > that schedules, so instead of tracking tasks we track CPUs: every pass > through __schedule() is a per-CPU quiescent event, except that the one > context switch that can catch a task at an arbitrary instruction -- a > preemption from irq exit -- first records the interrupted IP in the task > and parks it on a per-CPU list for the duration (reusing the fields and > lists the classic flavor keeps for its exit-path bookkeeping), and, if > the IP is inside such "unmarked" text, puts the task on a short holdout > list; the task takes itself off at its next context switch outside such > a preemption or irq-exit check that finds it elsewhere. Usermode (the > existing tick hook, or a nohz_full CPU in an RCU extended quiescent > state) and idle count as well. rcu_tasks_trampoline_text() does the > classification: anything outside core and module text, a new > .text..rcu_tramp section for C glue that trampolines call before it has > entered the reader (__rcu_trampoline), and an arch hook for things like > static ftrace stubs and return thunks. > > The grace period, run by the existing rcu_tasks kthread so that > call_rcu_tasks(), synchronize_rcu_tasks() and rcu_barrier_tasks() keep > their names and callers, is: wait for every online non-idle CPU to > context switch (nudging stragglers with resched_cpu() after a jiffy), > drain the holdout list as it stood, synchronize_rcu_tasks_trace() for > everything inside the readers, then one more CPU pass and drain for > tasks that have since left the reader into the trailing instructions. > That is bounded by a few jiffies, preempt-off latency and an SRCU grace > period rather than by the longest stretch any task runs without > sleeping, needs no per-task scan, and makes cond_resched_tasks_rcu_qs() > unnecessary on such architectures. As before, idle tasks are not > waited for. rcu_tasks_wait_irq_preempted() walks the parked lists for > the one caller (the kprobe jump optimizer, later in the series) that > makes ordinary text unsafe to be parked in and so has to wait out tasks > that were preempted there before it said so. > > The classic implementation is untouched and remains the default; the > new one is built only as CONFIG_TASKS_RCU_TRAMPOLINE_READERS when the > architecture opts in and uses the generic irq entry code, whose > reschedule check gains the rcu_tasks_irq_resched() call. Nothing > selects it yet. > > Suggested-by: Paul E. McKenney > Suggested-by: Alexei Starovoitov > Assisted-by: LLM > Signed-off-by: Josef Bacik > --- > include/asm-generic/vmlinux.lds.h | 11 + > include/linux/rcupdate.h | 32 ++- > include/linux/sched.h | 1 + > kernel/entry/common.c | 8 +- > kernel/fork.c | 1 + > kernel/rcu/Kconfig | 22 ++ > kernel/rcu/tasks.h | 460 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++- > kernel/rcu/update.c | 2 + > 8 files changed, 528 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-) > > diff --git a/include/asm-generic/vmlinux.lds.h b/include/asm-generic/vmlinux.lds.h > index b2988aa12f66..86e58c4fe370 100644 > --- a/include/asm-generic/vmlinux.lds.h > +++ b/include/asm-generic/vmlinux.lds.h > @@ -571,6 +571,16 @@ > __cpuidle_text_end = .; \ > __noinstr_text_end = .; > > +/* > + * C glue called directly from Tasks-RCU-protected trampolines, bounded so > + * that rcu_tasks_trampoline_text() can recognise it; see __rcu_trampoline. > + */ > +#define RCU_TRAMP_TEXT \ > + ALIGN_FUNCTION(); \ > + __rcu_tramp_text_start = .; \ > + *(.text..rcu_tramp) \ > + __rcu_tramp_text_end = .; > + > #define TEXT_SPLIT \ > __split_text_start = .; \ > *(.text.split .text.split.[0-9a-zA-Z_]*) \ > @@ -607,6 +617,7 @@ > TEXT_HOT \ > *(TEXT_MAIN .text.fixup) \ > NOINSTR_TEXT \ > + RCU_TRAMP_TEXT \ > *(.ref.text) > > /* sched.text is aling to function alignment to secure we have same > diff --git a/include/linux/rcupdate.h b/include/linux/rcupdate.h > index 44c07a66edff..fb2a3889a696 100644 > --- a/include/linux/rcupdate.h > +++ b/include/linux/rcupdate.h > @@ -50,6 +50,31 @@ token_context_lock_instance(RCU, RCU_BH); > /* Exported common interfaces */ > void call_rcu(struct rcu_head *head, rcu_callback_t func); > void rcu_barrier_tasks(void); > + > +/* > + * Trampoline-reader Tasks RCU (CONFIG_TASKS_RCU_TRAMPOLINE_READERS), see > + * kernel/rcu/tasks.h. rcu_tasks_irq_resched_enter()/_exit() bracket the > + * irq-exit preemption; rcu_tasks_trampoline_text() and the arch_ override > + * classify an interrupted IP; rcu_tasks_wait_irq_preempted() lets a caller > + * wait out tasks already preempted somewhere it is about to make unsafe. > + * __rcu_trampoline places C code that such trampolines call directly, before > + * it has entered its Tasks Trace reader, where that classification can see it. > + */ > +void rcu_tasks_irq_resched_enter(unsigned long ip); > +void rcu_tasks_irq_resched_exit(void); > +bool rcu_tasks_trampoline_text(unsigned long ip); > +bool arch_rcu_tasks_trampoline_text(unsigned long ip); > +#ifdef CONFIG_TASKS_RCU_TRAMPOLINE_READERS > +void rcu_tasks_wait_irq_preempted(bool (*inside)(unsigned long ip)); > +#else > +static inline void rcu_tasks_wait_irq_preempted(bool (*inside)(unsigned long ip)) { } > +#endif > +#ifdef CONFIG_TASKS_RCU_TRAMPOLINE_READERS > +/* Also keeps instrumentation calls out of the prologue, ahead of the reader. */ > +#define __rcu_trampoline __noinstr_section(".text..rcu_tramp") > +#else > +#define __rcu_trampoline > +#endif > void synchronize_rcu(void); > > /* > @@ -180,11 +205,16 @@ static inline void rcu_nocb_flush_deferred_wakeup(void) { } > #ifdef CONFIG_TASKS_RCU_GENERIC > > # ifdef CONFIG_TASKS_RCU > -# define rcu_tasks_classic_qs(t, preempt) \ > +# ifdef CONFIG_TASKS_RCU_TRAMPOLINE_READERS > +void rcu_tasks_note_qs(struct task_struct *t, bool preempt); > +# define rcu_tasks_classic_qs(t, preempt) rcu_tasks_note_qs((t), (preempt)) > +# else > +# define rcu_tasks_classic_qs(t, preempt) \ > do { \ > if (!(preempt) && READ_ONCE((t)->rcu_tasks_holdout)) \ > WRITE_ONCE((t)->rcu_tasks_holdout, false); \ > } while (0) > +# endif > void call_rcu_tasks(struct rcu_head *head, rcu_callback_t func); > void synchronize_rcu_tasks(void); > void rcu_tasks_torture_stats_print(char *tt, char *tf); > diff --git a/include/linux/sched.h b/include/linux/sched.h > index 8b3d47a325cc..15beb44caa2c 100644 > --- a/include/linux/sched.h > +++ b/include/linux/sched.h > @@ -957,6 +957,7 @@ struct task_struct { > u8 rcu_tasks_holdout; > u8 rcu_tasks_idx; > int rcu_tasks_idle_cpu; > + unsigned long rcu_tasks_irq_ip; > struct list_head rcu_tasks_holdout_list; > int rcu_tasks_exit_cpu; > struct list_head rcu_tasks_exit_list; > diff --git a/kernel/entry/common.c b/kernel/entry/common.c > index e4acd50bd81a..94318519998c 100644 > --- a/kernel/entry/common.c > +++ b/kernel/entry/common.c > @@ -6,6 +6,7 @@ > #include > #include > #include > +#include > #include > #include > > @@ -141,8 +142,13 @@ void raw_irqentry_exit_cond_resched(struct pt_regs *regs) > rcu_irq_exit_check_preempt(); > if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_DEBUG_ENTRY)) > WARN_ON_ONCE(!on_thread_stack()); > - if (need_resched() && arch_irqentry_exit_need_resched()) > + if (need_resched() && arch_irqentry_exit_need_resched()) { > + if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_TASKS_RCU_TRAMPOLINE_READERS)) > + rcu_tasks_irq_resched_enter(instruction_pointer(regs)); > preempt_schedule_irq(); > + if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_TASKS_RCU_TRAMPOLINE_READERS)) > + rcu_tasks_irq_resched_exit(); > + } > } > } > #ifdef CONFIG_PREEMPT_DYNAMIC > diff --git a/kernel/fork.c b/kernel/fork.c > index 416758c8a3d4..8077336bb136 100644 > --- a/kernel/fork.c > +++ b/kernel/fork.c > @@ -1871,6 +1871,7 @@ static inline void rcu_copy_process(struct task_struct *p) > p->rcu_tasks_holdout = false; > INIT_LIST_HEAD(&p->rcu_tasks_holdout_list); > p->rcu_tasks_idle_cpu = -1; > + p->rcu_tasks_irq_ip = 0; > INIT_LIST_HEAD(&p->rcu_tasks_exit_list); > #endif /* #ifdef CONFIG_TASKS_RCU */ > #ifdef CONFIG_TASKS_TRACE_RCU > diff --git a/kernel/rcu/Kconfig b/kernel/rcu/Kconfig > index 332df7a7a634..bbab14bc14c3 100644 > --- a/kernel/rcu/Kconfig > +++ b/kernel/rcu/Kconfig > @@ -107,6 +107,28 @@ config TASKS_RCU > default NEED_TASKS_RCU && PREEMPTION > select IRQ_WORK > > +config HAVE_RCU_TRAMPOLINE_READERS > + bool > + help > + Select this if the architecture uses the generic irq entry code and > + every trampoline whose lifetime Tasks RCU guards on it (ftrace > + trampolines, kprobe out-of-line and optimized-probe slots, BPF > + trampolines, out-of-line ftrace direct-call trampolines) enters a > + Tasks Trace RCU read-side critical section before calling out of > + the trampoline and leaves it before returning, and any core text > + that runs on behalf of such a trampoline outside that reader is > + reported by arch_rcu_tasks_trampoline_text(). The assembly readers > + use the this_cpu_inc() form of SRCU-fast, hence !NEED_SRCU_NMI_SAFE. > + > +config TASKS_RCU_TRAMPOLINE_READERS > + def_bool TASKS_RCU && HAVE_RCU_TRAMPOLINE_READERS && GENERIC_IRQ_ENTRY && !NEED_SRCU_NMI_SAFE > + select TASKS_TRACE_RCU > + help > + Implement the Tasks RCU grace period as a per-CPU pass over > + context switches and irq-exit reschedules outside trampoline text > + plus a Tasks Trace RCU grace period, instead of waiting for every > + task to voluntarily context switch. See kernel/rcu/tasks.h. > + > config FORCE_TASKS_RUDE_RCU > bool "Force selection of Tasks Rude RCU" > depends on RCU_EXPERT > diff --git a/kernel/rcu/tasks.h b/kernel/rcu/tasks.h > index 627295396cd9..3a7c092361a6 100644 > --- a/kernel/rcu/tasks.h > +++ b/kernel/rcu/tasks.h > @@ -152,7 +152,7 @@ static struct rcu_tasks rt_name = \ > .kname = #rt_name, \ > } > > -#ifdef CONFIG_TASKS_RCU > +#if defined(CONFIG_TASKS_RCU) && !defined(CONFIG_TASKS_RCU_TRAMPOLINE_READERS) > > /* Report delay of scan exiting tasklist in rcu_tasks_postscan(). */ > static void tasks_rcu_exit_stall(struct timer_list *unused); > @@ -802,7 +802,7 @@ static void rcu_tasks_torture_stats_print_generic(struct rcu_tasks *rtp, char *t > > #endif // #ifndef CONFIG_TINY_RCU > > -#if defined(CONFIG_TASKS_RCU) > +#if defined(CONFIG_TASKS_RCU) && !defined(CONFIG_TASKS_RCU_TRAMPOLINE_READERS) > > //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > // > @@ -897,10 +897,445 @@ static void rcu_tasks_wait_gp(struct rcu_tasks *rtp) > rtp->postgp_func(rtp); > } > > -#endif /* #if defined(CONFIG_TASKS_RCU) */ > +#endif /* #if defined(CONFIG_TASKS_RCU) && !defined(CONFIG_TASKS_RCU_TRAMPOLINE_READERS) */ > > #ifdef CONFIG_TASKS_RCU > > +static int rcu_tasks_lazy_ms = -1; > +module_param(rcu_tasks_lazy_ms, int, 0444); > + > +#ifdef CONFIG_TASKS_RCU_TRAMPOLINE_READERS > + > +//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > +// > +// Tasks RCU for architectures whose trampolines are Tasks Trace RCU > +// readers (CONFIG_HAVE_RCU_TRAMPOLINE_READERS). > +// > +// On these architectures every piece of text whose lifetime Tasks RCU > +// guards -- ftrace trampolines, kprobe optinsn slots, BPF trampoline > +// images, out-of-line ftrace direct-call trampolines -- enters a Tasks > +// Trace RCU read-side critical section before calling out of itself and > +// leaves it before returning, so a task anywhere inside such a call-out, > +// preempted or not, is an ordinary rcu_read_lock_trace() reader and > +// synchronize_rcu_tasks_trace() waits for it. > +// > +// What that cannot cover is the handful of instructions in the trampoline > +// before the reader is entered and after it is left, and the one user that > +// has no trampoline at all: the bytes after a kprobe that the jump > +// optimizer is about to overwrite. A task can only linger in such > +// "unmarked" text by being interrupted there; unmarked text never calls > +// anything that could schedule. So a context switch on a CPU tells us that > +// whatever that CPU was running is out of unmarked text, with one > +// exception: a preemption from the irq-exit path, which can happen at any > +// instruction boundary. That path has the interrupted pt_regs in hand, so > +// just before it preempts it records the IP in the task and checks it > +// (rcu_tasks_trampoline_text()); if it is inside unmarked text the task > +// goes on a short holdout list first, and takes itself off again at its > +// next context switch outside such a preemption or its next irq-exit > +// check that finds it elsewhere. With that, every pass through > +// __schedule() is a per-CPU quiescent event, as are usermode and idle. > +// > +// A grace period is then: > +// > +// 1. Wait for every online, non-idle CPU to context switch, nudging > +// stragglers with resched_cpu(). Afterwards no task is in the leading > +// unmarked instructions of a dying trampoline unless it is on the > +// holdout list. > +// 2. Wait for the holdout list (as it stood) to drain. > +// 3. synchronize_rcu_tasks_trace(), for everything inside the readers. > +// 4. Repeat 1 and 2 for tasks that have since left the reader and are in > +// the trailing unmarked instructions. Alternatively the approach could be generalized to vanilla RCU, it could be possible to define a .text.rcu_no_qs section within which code running is considered as an RCU reader (with a pause while on the explicit RCU tasks section). It would be forbidden to voluntary sleep inside and to put explicit preemption points (CONFIG_PROVE_RCU could report misuses). Based on IP, RCU could consider those interrupted section as readers. This would require PREEMPT_RCU though. And then synchronize_rcu() would do the 1, 2, 4 jobs. -- Frederic Weisbecker SUSE Labs