From: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>
To: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
kernel-team@meta.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
david@kernel.org, ljs@kernel.org, liam@infradead.org,
vbabka@kernel.org, rppt@kernel.org, surenb@google.com,
mhocko@suse.com, brendan.jackman@linux.dev, hannes@cmpxchg.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] mm/page_alloc: refactor build_node_zonelist() out of build_zonelists()
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2026 12:38:57 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <arFaiV9iVgxIsZ1g@gourry-fedora-PF4VCD3F> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C7A2977A-CDD8-4EEF-9448-A130411878B6@nvidia.com>
On Mon, Sep 21, 2026 at 12:18:12PM -0400, Zi Yan wrote:
> On 20 Sep 2026, at 23:29, Gregory Price wrote:
>
> OK, ZONELIST_PRIVATE and ZONELIST_KTEST are not upstream yet, right?
> In theory, the new zlidx can be added when you add new ZONELIST_ types.
>
> I am OK with adding it now, but you could mention this change in
> the commit message to avoid confusion. Something like,
> for bulid_node_zonelist(), use ZONELIST_FALLBACK explicitly.
>
...
> > And add a BUILD_ON_BUG/ASSERT that forces any CONFIG_NUMA to have
> > balanced zonelist additions.
>
> Got it. Thank you for the explanation. Are all combinations of
> {ZONELIST_FALLBACK, ZONELIST_PRIVATE, ZONELIST_KTEST} x
> {N_MEMORY_GENERAL, N_MEMORY, /* private only */} allowed?
Slight inaccuracy on the way zonelists are actually built.
Every node has a list in every zonelist. The contents of each node's
list in that zonelist are limited to the candidate nodemask.
So consider the following nodes: N0, N1, P2 (N=normal, P=private)
With the following candidate mappings:
FALLBACK = N_MEMORY_GENERAL (_COMMON) (all normal nodes)
PRIVATE = N_MEMORY (all nodes)
KTEST = N_MEMORY & !N_MEMORY_GENERAL (only private nodes)
FALLBACK
0 : [0,1]
1 : [1,0]
2 : [0,1] <- private node's fallback list is normal nodes
NOFALLBACK
0 : [0]
1 : [1]
2 : [2]
PRIVATE Accessible via ALLOC_PRIVATE_ZONELIST
0 : [0,1,2]
1 : [1,0,2]
2 : [2,0,1]
PRIVATE_NOFALLBACK
0 : [0]
1 : [1]
2 : [2]
KTEST Not accessible via any flag, completely isolated
0 : [2]
1 : [2]
2 : [2]
KTEST_NOFALLBACK Not accessible via any flag, completely isolated
0 : []
1 : []
2 : [2]
I haven't posted the ktest series yet, but it's how i've made the page
allocator ktest-able. Ktest is empowered to set the fallback list
directly rather than requiring a flag - not something any in-tree caller
can do - which lets it limit allocations to a private node and makes
mutations on the pgdat for that node deterministic from test-to-test.
Works on UML too, so testing is very fast. :]
Apologies for the added complexity in the explanation, but I figure it's
worth spelling out.
> Any enforcement if not? This is more related your “private node” series,
> instead of this patchset.
>
These zonelists aren't something we're going to allocate dynamically,
the enforcement is encoded in the function (build ZONELIST_X over
candidates N_MEMORY_Y).
> >
> > But I don't think it's strictly necessary for any of this, and we're
> > just shuffling code from one place to another. Probably I can just add
> > that improvement when we add the next zonelist. In the meantime - this
> > makes it easier to add new zonelists as-is (and just makes the code more
> > readable).
>
> Sure, no rush.
>
> Feel free to add
>
> Reviewed-by: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
>
> after you add some text on the added zlidx in the commit message.
>
ack. hopefully the explanation above helps.
I will work that into the commit message in a reduced capacity.
~Gregory
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-21 16:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-12 3:04 [PATCH v2 0/2] mm: refactor zonelist constructors and iterators Gregory Price
2026-09-12 3:04 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] mm: refactor find_next_best_node to find_next_best_node_in Gregory Price
2026-09-14 15:00 ` Zi Yan
2026-09-18 20:42 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-18 21:49 ` Gregory Price
2026-09-12 3:04 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] mm/page_alloc: refactor build_node_zonelist() out of build_zonelists() Gregory Price
2026-09-14 14:56 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-09-14 15:04 ` Gregory Price
2026-09-21 2:49 ` Zi Yan
2026-09-21 2:53 ` Zi Yan
2026-09-21 3:33 ` Gregory Price
2026-09-21 16:20 ` Zi Yan
2026-09-21 3:29 ` Gregory Price
2026-09-21 16:18 ` Zi Yan
2026-09-21 16:38 ` Gregory Price [this message]
2026-09-21 17:04 ` Gregory Price
2026-09-21 17:18 ` Zi Yan
2026-09-21 23:58 ` Zi Yan
2026-09-22 1:02 ` Gregory Price
2026-09-15 16:27 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] mm: refactor zonelist constructors and iterators Zenghui Yu
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