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From: Frank Li <Frank.li@oss.nxp.com>
To: Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
Cc: Michal Simek <michal.simek@amd.com>,
	Shubham Patil <shubhamsanjay.patil@amd.com>,
	alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com, Frank.Li@kernel.org,
	robh@kernel.org, krzk+dt@kernel.org, conor+dt@kernel.org,
	linux-i3c@lists.infradead.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, git@amd.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] dt-bindings: i3c: xlnx: Add IBI and hot-join capability properties
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2026 11:25:30 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <arKr-oapsl5qzo_E@SMW015318> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260922-immersion-salvage-00450539f1ce@spud>

On Tue, Sep 22, 2026 at 10:39:23AM +0100, Conor Dooley wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 22, 2026 at 10:38:17AM +0100, Conor Dooley wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 22, 2026 at 10:33:44AM +0100, Conor Dooley wrote:
> > > On Thu, Sep 17, 2026 at 01:23:19PM +0200, Michal Simek wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 9/10/26 17:44, Frank Li wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2026 at 12:36:45PM +0100, Conor Dooley wrote:
> > > > > > On Wed, Sep 09, 2026 at 11:21:41AM -0500, Frank Li wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 08, 2026 at 06:54:31PM +0100, Conor Dooley wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 08, 2026 at 03:12:55PM +0530, Shubham Patil wrote:
> > > > > > > > > In-Band Interrupt and Hot-Join are synthesis-time options of the AXI I3C
> > > > > > > > > IP. Describe them with two boolean properties.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > A Hot-Join request is acknowledged by the IBI machinery, so a hot-join
> > > > > > > > > capable design is always IBI capable as well. Both events are reported
> > > > > > > > > through the controller interrupt, which is therefore required whenever
> > > > > > > > > the capability is present.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Shubham Patil <shubhamsanjay.patil@amd.com>
> > > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > > > Changes in V3:
> > > > > > > > > - Move in-band-interrupt-capable and hot-join-capable into the common
> > > > > > > > >    i3c.yaml schema and drop the xlnx, prefix.
> > > > > > > > > - Keep dependencies in the AMD binding.
> > > > > > > > > - Update the commit description accordingly.
> > > > > > > > > - Conor Dooley acked v2 with the xlnx,-prefixed properties in the AMD
> > > > > > > > >    binding [1].
> > > > > > > > >    That Acked-by is not carried here: the names lost the vendor prefix
> > > > > > > > >    and the definitions moved to i3c.yaml after Frank Li's comment.
> > > > > > > > >    [1]:https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260824-tightwad-impose-495476599087@spud/
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I disagree with Frank. These properties make sense for Xilinx because it
> > > > > > > > is an FPGA IP and synthesis options impact this. For other devices, this
> > > > > > > > should be determined from the compatible.
> > > > > > > > Please revert to how things were done in v2, especially as no rationale
> > > > > > > > was provided for why these should be common.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It is common problems, when IP intergrate by SOC, which may defeature some
> > > > > > > part, It is not appeared now just because IBI and HJ have not enabled
> > > > > > > widely.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > IBI and HJ is optional features of I3C. Ideally it should be indicated by
> > > > > > > some registers. But not all vendor implement provide this CAP registers.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > IBI and HJ depend on some slow clocks, which monitor SDA line change.
> > > > > > > Some instances of IP may not have such slow clocks. Some IP's IBI and HJ
> > > > > > > use seperate IRQ line, but these irq line may not connect of difference
> > > > > > > instances.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > All of this should be able to be dealt with by appropriate use of
> > > > > > specific compatibles.
> > > > >
> > > > > I understand compatible can cover most cases. Need variance for property.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > like previous SPI vendor customized property, we takes efforts to convert
> > > > > > > to common one and also meet back compatiblity problem at convert. I don't
> > > > > > > want to do it again. This kind property is most likely as below.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What SPI controller specific properties are you talking about here?
> > > > > > There are relatively few properties in spi-controller.yaml, and none of
> > > > > > them deal with these kinds of capabilities.
> > > > >
> > > > > num-cs vs fsl,espi-num-chipselects. Total number CS of IP is fixed, but
> > > > > some instances have not route all CS to pad.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > default: 	decide by comaptible string or hardware cap
> > > > > > > force-disabled: force disable for some reason, like, miss connect irq line
> > > > > > > or missed some clock, or IP bugs, or board desgin's some level shift chip
> > > > > > > broken IBI/HJ timing requirements.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Of these, only the last would be a valid reason for having a property
> > > > > > for it. Missing interrupts, clocks or IP bugs should all be dealt with
> > > > > > using device specific compatibles.
> > > > > > If board wiring causes the breakage, the property may be more
> > > > > > appropriate at the i3c device level rather than the controller given
> > > > > > that wiring to some devices on the bus may not have the problems?
> > > > >
> > > > > I3C.yaml is for both master controller and devices now. I3C is bus, which
> > > > > connect many devices, if wiring issue, whole bus can't support IBI. And
> > > > > if any broken devices happen at address arbitation, whole bus can't support
> > > > > IBI.
> > > > >
> > > > > at beging, I suggest 3 state,
> > > > >
> > > > > [default, enable, disable], but now I think IBI_broken, HJ_broken is more
> > > > > reasonable to disable it, default value should be set by compatible
> > > > > string or DCR of I3C regiser.
> > > > >
> > > > > And some I3C device may be failure to work with IBI even DCR of I3C register
> > > > > show it support IBI.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't want to appear two similar property between vendor and common, like
> > > > > num-cs vs fsl,espi-num-chipselects.
> > > > >
> > > > > such as IBI-broken can be used for controller and devices case.
> > > > >
> > > > > > That said, I think that problem should be dealt with when it arises,
> > > > > > rather than starting a trend of adding capabilities properties at the
> > > > > > controller level when I am not convinced that there's going to be other
> > > > > > users in the same vein.
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Understand, I3C is realtive new protocal. 'IBI-broken' is more easy
> > > > > understand,  logically equial to in-band-interrupt-capable.
> > > > Conor: Any update on this one? I think this thread is stuck at this stage.
> > >
> > > I didn't think there was any need to reply. I took the first sentence of
> > > this snippet to be acceptance of what I was saying.
> > >
> > > If yous desperately want to have a generic property, the negative
> > > connotation of the "-broken" is probably better in that it'd be more
> > > likely to make people set stuff by compatible rather than have to use a
> > > property with that word in it.
> >
> > That said, technically this platform could be both
> > "amd,in-band-interrupt-capable" and "ibi-broken" at the same time, since
> > one describes the way the IP has been compiled and the other wiring. I'm
> > not entirely sure whether conflating the two is possible? Depends on if
> > your IP's programming model changes if the option is enabled even if it
> > cannot be used. Not beyond the realms of possibility.
> >
> > Also, ibi-broken doesn't work for your platform, since the default
> > before this patch is no ibi and requiring a property for no ibi would be
> > an ABI break.
>
> The perils of FPGA IP I suppose, and not being quite careful enough to
> document all of the relevant options from the start. Been guilty of that
> myself.
>

Check impliment code

+       /*
+        * The interrupt only carries IBI events, so it is only described for
+        * designs synthesized with that feature.
+        */
+       if (master->ibi_capable) {
+               xi3c_master_init_ibi_ops(master);
+
+               master->irq = platform_get_irq(pdev, 0);
+               if (master->irq < 0)
+                       return master->irq;
+
+               ret = devm_request_irq(master->dev, master->irq,
+                                      xi3c_master_irq_handler, IRQF_NO_AUTOEN,
+                                      dev_name(master->dev), master);
+               if (ret)
+                       return dev_err_probe(master->dev, ret,
+                                            "Failed to request IRQ\n");
+       }

They can use master->irq is determinate if support IBI.

Frank

>



  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-22 16:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-08  9:42 [PATCH v3 0/3] i3c: master: amd: Add IBI and hot-join support Shubham Patil
2026-09-08  9:42 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] dt-bindings: i3c: xlnx: Add IBI and hot-join capability properties Shubham Patil
2026-09-08 17:54   ` Conor Dooley
2026-09-09 16:21     ` Frank Li
2026-09-10 11:36       ` Conor Dooley
2026-09-10 15:44         ` Frank Li
2026-09-17 11:23           ` Michal Simek
2026-09-22  9:33             ` Conor Dooley
2026-09-22  9:38               ` Conor Dooley
2026-09-22  9:39                 ` Conor Dooley
2026-09-22 16:25                   ` Frank Li [this message]
2026-09-22 17:24                     ` Conor Dooley
2026-09-22 18:35                       ` Frank Li
2026-09-22 21:29                         ` Conor Dooley
2026-09-22 22:21                           ` Frank Li
2026-09-08  9:42 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] i3c: master: amd: Add support for in-band interrupts Shubham Patil
2026-09-08  9:42 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] i3c: master: amd: Add hot-join support Shubham Patil

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